Relic fail?

ThePrettyDamned

1nten5e said:

The whole thing is John Cruz Masterbuilt, so not genuine nope

That's pretty amazing.  Must have taken ages!

fretfinder

GazLion said:

All this fake vintage stuff is crap, but that is on another level of crap

If you're including Fender Custom Shop Relics in your 'fake vintage stuff', then there's thousand of guitarists out there who would wildly disagree with you. Me too - I've owned a few and some of them have been the best Strats/Teles I've ever played. And they're great for gigging guitars as you don't have to worry if they pick up the odd little bump along the way!

ThePrettyDamned said:

Just to give an example of a really great relic, 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HEAVY-RELIC-TELE-BODY-IN-VINTAGE-CORRECT-NITRO-LACQUER-CRAMPS-GOTH-PUNK-/400625123744?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5d471e41a0

It's unrealistic, but it means it's not trying to be something it's not, as such - it's like a prop, and looks great for it!

Er... you actually like that?! Fair enough, I suppose variety is the spice of life etc.

ICBM

ThePrettyDamned said:

The only bit I'm not keen on is the wear on the inside of the lower horn

Signet ring mark . You see that on a lot of real ones that went through the 70s .

ThePrettyDamned

fretfinder said:

GazLion said:

All this fake vintage stuff is crap, but that is on another level of crap

If you're including Fender Custom Shop Relics in your 'fake vintage stuff', then there's thousand of guitarists out there who would wildly disagree with you. Me too - I've owned a few and some of them have been the best Strats/Teles I've ever played. And they're great for gigging guitars as you don't have to worry if they pick up the odd little bump along the way!

ThePrettyDamned said:

Just to give an example of a really great relic, 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HEAVY-RELIC-TELE-BODY-IN-VINTAGE-CORRECT-NITRO-LACQUER-CRAMPS-GOTH-PUNK-/400625123744?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5d471e41a0

It's unrealistic, but it means it's not trying to be something it's not, as such - it's like a prop, and looks great for it!

Er... you actually like that?! Fair enough, I suppose variety is the spice of life etc.

It's because of it's 'prop factor' - looks like it was recovered from a sunken ship or something!  I find it more honest than some of the 'realistic' ones.

ICBM said:

ThePrettyDamned said:

The only bit I'm not keen on is the wear on the inside of the lower horn

Signet ring mark . You see that on a lot of real ones that went through the 70s .

Ooo nice point.  I take it back!

paulk

I fucking HATE artificially reliced guitars. They uniformly look like boiled arsegrapes on toast with added streams of boiling piss bought by poser wannabes who think it will make them look cool playing their lawyerdentist, blueswank, cockwomblry, fucking boring shite.

 Now, a guitar that's had a few real knocks is another matter entirely. 

Glad to have that off my chest.

fretfinder

paulk said:

They uniformly look like...

The one thing they are not, is uniform.   :-S

1nten5e

paulk said:

I fucking HATE artificially reliced guitars. They uniformly look like boiled arsegrapes on toast with added streams of boiling piss bought by poser wannabes who think it will make them look cool playing their lawyerdentist, blueswank, cockwomblry, fucking boring shite.

 Now, a guitar that's had a few real knocks is another matter entirely. 

Glad to have that off my chest.

I'm not keen on SG's but I dont let it get to me

GazLion

fretfinder said:

GazLion said:

All this fake vintage stuff is crap, but that is on another level of crap

If you're including Fender Custom Shop Relics in your 'fake vintage stuff', then there's thousand of guitarists out there who would wildly disagree with you. Me too - I've owned a few and some of them have been the best Strats/Teles I've ever played. And they're great for gigging guitars as you don't have to worry if they pick up the odd little bump along the way!

Yup I certainly am! Thanks for the stats though. 

stonevibe

I have a Nash Tele which is a relic. 

Looks like shit, but sounds great and plays well.

When down the pub playing nobody cares, so I'm alright with it.

streethawk

MJT do some good stuff but I'm not overly clean on the finish of the exposed wood.

jd0272

stonevibe said:

I have a Nash Tele which is a relic. 

Looks like shit, but sounds great and plays well.

When down the pub playing nobody cares, so I'm alright with it.

That right there is the fucking point gentlemen. When we're giggin, nobody gives a fuck, except us. We buy them (or not) cause we want to (or not) and can do (or not).

jd0272

paulk said:

I fucking HATE artificially reliced guitars. They uniformly look like boiled arsegrapes on toast with added streams of boiling piss bought by poser wannabes who think it will make them look cool playing their lawyerdentist, blueswank, cockwomblry, fucking boring shite.

 Now, a guitar that's had a few real knocks is another matter entirely. 

Glad to have that off my chest.

Excellent honesty. I have two, but I appreciate and accept your view.

DeeTee

What @jd0272 said. The only exception was when I saw NIN live back in the day. He had a beautiful blue LP for one song, and I knew the guitar line finished halfway through the song. I knew what was going to happen then. I can only hope a tech caught it as it sailed over the backdrop...

jd0272

ThePrettyDamned said:

Just to give an example of a really great relic, 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HEAVY-RELIC-TELE-BODY-IN-VINTAGE-CORRECT-NITRO-LACQUER-CRAMPS-GOTH-PUNK-/400625123744?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5d471e41a0

It's unrealistic, but it means it's not trying to be something it's not, as such - it's like a prop, and looks great for it!

It's horses for courses tho ain't it? I think that's more than 'get away-able' if you play like you're thrashing the fucking tits off it, but not if you're into smooth jazz. I'd get away with it. Seen much worse come out of Fender.

jd0272

DeeTee said:

What @jd0272 said. The only exception was when I saw NIN live back in the day. He had a beautiful blue LP for one song, and I knew the guitar line finished halfway through the song. I knew what was going to happen then. I can only hope a tech caught it as it sailed over the backdrop...

It was blue man. Blue! Let it drop   Not half the class of the Townsend method tho eh  

DeeTee

I wanted one of those blue Les Pauls so bad. It was the late nineties man, leave me alone!

redrighthand

MJT are great. But they cater for all tastes, from lovers of light checking to Rory Gallagher wannabes.

fretfinder

GazLion said:

fretfinder said:

GazLion said:

All this fake vintage stuff is crap, but that is on another level of crap

If you're including Fender Custom Shop Relics in your 'fake vintage stuff', then there's thousand of guitarists out there who would wildly disagree with you. Me too - I've owned a few and some of them have been the best Strats/Teles I've ever played. And they're great for gigging guitars as you don't have to worry if they pick up the odd little bump along the way!

Yup I certainly am! Thanks for the stats though. 

Poor you, your blind prejudice means you're missing out on some of the finest guitars around! Each to their own though.  

jd0272

@fretfinder I have to agree. My lovely CS Relic '59 Esquire is, well, lovely, and plays and sounds like a good 'un.

Mind in fairness, Fender don't half put out some shite 'looking' relics as well.

jd0272

DeeTee said:

I wanted one of those blue Les Pauls so bad. It was the late nineties man, leave me alone!

It. Was. Blue. BLUE FFS. However, I have LOL'd you out of sympathy for the medication you need to be on