Custom Made Cabs: Advice Needed...

Wazmeister

So, i thought this would be easy, but appears not to be the case...

I want a 1x12, or maybe a 2x12, for my incoming Redplate. Needs to match cosmetically.

Are Zilla the only option ?

Also, do I go Vintage 30 (1x12) or mixed speakers in a 2x12 ?

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q493/Warren3333/IMG_0012_1.jpg

StuartMac290

Hoffnine cabs in Scotland. He makes excellent cabs and he's a good guy.

guitarfishbay

IIRC a couple of forum members have bought from Roadkill http://www.roadkillcabs.co.uk/

shaunm

Wazmeister said:

So, i thought this would be easy, but appears not to be the case...

I want a 1x12, or maybe a 2x12, for my incoming Redplate. Needs to match cosmetically.

Are Zilla the only option ?

Also, do I go Vintage 30 (1x12) or mixed speakers in a 2x12 ?

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q493/Warren3333/IMG_0012_1.jpg

Go 2x12 because your jeans are meant to flap

Wazmeister

Ah, good point... i need to buy some flappy jeans too ! 

shaunm

Wazmeister said:

Ah, good point... i need to buy some flappy jeans too ! 

I assumed this was the reason that new, trendy hipster bands wear skinny jeans is because they play 1x12 combos and don't have to worry about "the flap". 

I was looking at Zilla cabs last night. The 2x12 fat boy was what I was looking at as a match for a JTM45.

Deijavoo

Love Zilla cabs but Roadkill and Hoffnine are also supposed to be very good. 

On the speaker front I moved to creambacks this year and I'm very impressed with them. 

djspecialist

I'm currently also shopping for a cab, most likely vertical 2x12.

One difference I notice between Zilla and Roadkill is that for a similar price the cabs are made from 15mm and 18mm ply respectively.  (The Zilla Panhead is 18mm but significantly more pricey.)

How much does that matter?

DanR

I have a fatbaby from zilla and just ordered a 2x12 from them in custom dimensions.

I didn't want the foot print any bigger than the Fatbaby but not as tall as a vertical 2x12, so I think it's 620mm tall but I left it up to Paul to go with what he believed would sound best.

None of my cabs will match my heads though colour wise.

Wazmeister

DanR said:

I have a fatbaby from zilla and just ordered a 2x12 from them in custom dimensions.

I didn't want the foot print any bigger than the Fatbaby but not as tall as a vertical 2x12, so I think it's 620mm tall but I left it up to Paul to go with what he believed would sound best.

None of my cabs will match my heads though colour wise.

Dan, whats the delivery time mate ?

DanR

@Wazmeister it's due on Thursday.

I also went for the 3 piece back so I can split between open and closed back.

Edit.

Reading it back I'm guessing you mean Zillas turnaround not when I'm getting mine.

Its generally upto two weeks from order placement but mines took just over a week.

Lew

Zilla cabs are most excellent. I bought my vertical 2x12 coming on for three years ago. Three piece back was a must have even if I do always use it fully closed. I did change the Creamback H's for M's though which was a massive improvement for me.

hywelg

EV and  a Gold or Red Fang. 

Dave_Mc

djspecialist said:

I'm currently also shopping for a cab, most likely vertical 2x12.

One difference I notice between Zilla and Roadkill is that for a similar price the cabs are made from 15mm and 18mm ply respectively.  (The Zilla Panhead is 18mm but significantly more pricey.)

How much does that matter?

Not sure it matters at all, or at least that much. I have a vague recollection of @jpfamps at one point (I think it was him, apologies if it wasn't) saying that the thickness of ply was picked because of how easy it was to work rather than any other reason. But as i said, i might be misremembering.

jpfamps

Dave_Mc said:

djspecialist said:

I'm currently also shopping for a cab, most likely vertical 2x12.

One difference I notice between Zilla and Roadkill is that for a similar price the cabs are made from 15mm and 18mm ply respectively.  (The Zilla Panhead is 18mm but significantly more pricey.)

How much does that matter?

Not sure it matters at all, or at least that much. I have a vague recollection of @jpfamps at one point (I think it was him, apologies if it wasn't) saying that the thickness of ply was picked because of how easy it was to work rather than any other reason. But as i said, i might be misremembering.

That was if you aren't using finger joints.

A lot of manufactures use a rabatted butt joint, and glue and stable the wood together. 18 mm ply is a bigger target for a staple that 15 mm, so assembly is easier ie cheaper.

Ply wood, for some reason, is expensive in the UK, so the extra thickness will be more expensive.

In the US for example 18 mm ply is cheaper so it economically it makes sense to use 18 mm ply and a cheaper construction method.

Often if a manufacturer makes a point of using 18 mm ply they are actually doing this to save money!

Regardless, an 18 mm ply cab will be less resonant than a 15 mm ply, and will probably have better bass response. This may be good, bad or indifferent depending on what sound you are going for.

What you can guarantee is that there will a weight penalty for using 18 mm ply.

hywelg

Nobody fancy a project? All the hard work is done. 

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/69188/anyone-want-a-project-unfinished-2x12-speaker-cab#latest

And if you want a testimonial regarding the sound of the cab ask any if the guys who've been to the Nottingham Amp Demo days. Put decent drivers in it and it'll match a 4x12. 

meltedbuzzbox

wont mjw make a cab?

Wazmeister

MJW is no longer taking orders ?

Dave_Mc

jpfamps said:

Dave_Mc said:

djspecialist said:

I'm currently also shopping for a cab, most likely vertical 2x12.

One difference I notice between Zilla and Roadkill is that for a similar price the cabs are made from 15mm and 18mm ply respectively.  (The Zilla Panhead is 18mm but significantly more pricey.)

How much does that matter?

Not sure it matters at all, or at least that much. I have a vague recollection of @jpfamps at one point (I think it was him, apologies if it wasn't) saying that the thickness of ply was picked because of how easy it was to work rather than any other reason. But as i said, i might be misremembering.

That was if you aren't using finger joints.

A lot of manufactures use a rabatted butt joint, and glue and stable the wood together. 18 mm ply is a bigger target for a staple that 15 mm, so assembly is easier ie cheaper.

Ply wood, for some reason, is expensive in the UK, so the extra thickness will be more expensive.

In the US for example 18 mm ply is cheaper so it economically it makes sense to use 18 mm ply and a cheaper construction method.

Often if a manufacturer makes a point of using 18 mm ply they are actually doing this to save money!

Regardless, an 18 mm ply cab will be less resonant than a 15 mm ply, and will probably have better bass response. This may be good, bad or indifferent depending on what sound you are going for.

What you can guarantee is that there will a weight penalty for using 18 mm ply.

Thanks, I guess I remembered an over-simplified version of that That's pretty interesting.

impmann

Its a shame you are worried about the cream vinyl... as these are brilliant, sound superb and are actually lightweight.

http://www.lean-business.co.uk/eshop/montage-guitar-cabinets-montage-1-x-12-guitar-cabinets-c-105_143.html?zenid=51caa5693d58bc93c71d0c9bcc7fe132

hywelg

Cream vinyl is easy to find. Henry uses these

http://www.redplateamps.com/tolex-and-grills.html

http://www.allparts.uk.com/products/tolex-mojotone-levant-ivory-54-inch-wide

And grille cloth

http://www.allparts.uk.com/products/tolex-mojotone-levant-ivory-54-inch-wide