Lazy J20 hype ...

hotpickups

garfy said:

New set of PAF's courtesy of Montys Guitars...my LP into my J20 is now amazing! 

Ditto

Blacksheep

Gassage said:

Does anyone else find the LJ's better with HB or P90s or is this just me?

Yes I agree totally with this. I think especially if you are a Strat player who spends a lot of time on the neck pickup. With the latter and at gigging volume I found I did get a small amount of bass flubbery. Nothing like as much as my old cornell romany plus, mind you.

But as @miserneil says, this is such an intensely personal thing.

One man's muddy flub is another man's warm vintage loveliness. 

smogfalls

Gassage said:

Does anyone else find the LJ's better with HB or P90s or is this just me?

I'm the complete opposite for sure... much prefer it with single coils!... I pretty much play my Tele through it 90% of the time.
I also use it with my es125 sometimes and that has a gorgeous sounding P90 that works great with the lazy j too. (Don't forget that P90's are single coils too!)
Not really into Strats but when I have plugged one in, it sounded pretty great!

Lebarque

Blacksheep said:

Gassage said:

Does anyone else find the LJ's better with HB or P90s or is this just me?

Yes I agree totally with this. I think especially if you are a Strat player who spends a lot of time on the neck pickup. With the latter and at gigging volume I found I did get a small amount of bass flubbery. Nothing like as much as my old cornell romany plus, mind you.

But as @miserneil says, this is such an intensely personal thing.

One man's muddy flub is another man's warm vintage loveliness. 

Hmmm, surely a neck humbucker is going to be more flubbery than a strat neck though?  

Lebarque

This strat tone sounds pretty damn good to me, albeit with a Lazy J clone:

Misty

A bit off topic, but I tried a J20 on a couple of occasions some time ago. Sounded great at the time, but to you guys who know this amp, am I right in saying you can't really get blackface type sounds out of it, even with its 6L6s? Sorry, might seem naive but I don't know how else to put it:) 

Edit.....no worries, found the answers in an old thread.

digitalkettle

hotpickups said:

garfy said:

New set of PAF's courtesy of Montys Guitars...my LP into my J20 is now amazing! 

Ditto

Ditto!

RaymondLin

I prefer my Lazy J with my LP.  

IvisonGuitars

digitalkettle said:

hotpickups said:

garfy said:

New set of PAF's courtesy of Montys Guitars...my LP into my J20 is now amazing! 

Ditto

Ditto!

Which @chrisv & Huw Price recently atated that the Monty's PAF sounded closest to a vintage 50's P90....so there ya go... ;-)

ruoma

My monty's pafs sound amazing through the j20, but it is that one oh so creamy sound though! Very very juicy but not jangly. Therefore if it's not for overdrive lead sounds, I prefer a good tele for rhythm stuff, to get a cleaner and tighter chord response. But overdriven, p90 or humbuckers all the way! And although montys pafs approach p90's according to him, I think the ideal combo would be lightly wound p90's into a fender type body wood to even out the j20's mids just a bit. 

richardhomer

Lebarque said:

This strat tone sounds pretty damn good to me, albeit with a Lazy J clone:

And here's the problem with people expressing views on gear - I hated the tone on that (I appreciate it's not a 'real' Lazy J).

The trick is to find something that 'works' for you - be that a boutique amp, or something more mainstream. 

Lebarque

^ Heathen ;0)

richardhomer

Lebarque said:

^ Heathen ;0)

Lol. Seriously - I thought that sounded awful. Not just poor - I mean really, really bad....

xchrisv

Argh, these threads don't help my GAS one bit. 

hotpickups

chrisv said:

Argh, these threads don't help my GAS one bit. 

LOL I know what you mean. I have a j20 and I want to buy another one now

garfy

hotpickups said:

chrisv said:

Argh, these threads don't help my GAS one bit. 

LOL I know what you mean. I have a j20 and I want to buy another one now

Ditto!!!!

Misty

garfy said:

hotpickups said:

chrisv said:

Argh, these threads don't help my GAS one bit. 

LOL I know what you mean. I have a j20 and I want to buy another one now

Ditto!!!!

I've never had one, hadn't considered buying one. Until now.....

John_A

richardhomer said:

Lebarque said:

^ Heathen ;0)

Lol. Seriously - I thought that sounded awful. Not just poor - I mean really, really bad....

Agree, that doesn't sound good, ore proof that there's more to building a 5E3 type amp than chucking some bits together

wellsyboy

fretfinder said:

The new price for a Victoria 20112 is £2300, no VAC, no reverb, no trem, no Blue, and not as powerful/loud as a Lazy J20. You don't tend to see threads on here about the Vicky hype, what a ripoff they are, so much money for such a simple circuit etc. Yep they're from the States but even so. 

Ditto the Carr Rambler which is also £2300, but they're a larger scale business which probably helps them to keep prices down a bit. 

Jus sayin...

Have you looked inside a Carr amp? Proper point to point wiring (unless things have changed) that's a lot of work!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjko63qeb79r0hb/DSC01962.JPG?raw=1

4114Effects

wellsyboy said:

fretfinder said:

The new price for a Victoria 20112 is £2300, no VAC, no reverb, no trem, no Blue, and not as powerful/loud as a Lazy J20. You don't tend to see threads on here about the Vicky hype, what a ripoff they are, so much money for such a simple circuit etc. Yep they're from the States but even so. 

Ditto the Carr Rambler which is also £2300, but they're a larger scale business which probably helps them to keep prices down a bit. 

Jus sayin...

Have you looked inside a Carr amp? Proper point to point wiring (unless things have changed) that's a lot of work!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjko63qeb79r0hb/DSC01962.JPG?raw=1

My word. Not sure if I like that or not. Admire the skill in doing PTP, but that looks like a nightmare to repair. Also, that's the most hot-melt glue I've seen in one place at once ...