PSA: Zoom MS50G Multistomp owners read this

handsomerik

Zoom has this week released 3.0 firmware which is downloadable for free and it includes every single delay, modulation and reverb from the CDR-70 multistomp as well as all the purchasable downloads for the BT100 multistomp.

This is 86 extra FX for FREE!!!

What nice fellows!

Some of the new delays and reverbs are actually really nice and usable. I really hope they add these FX to the G3 as well.

UnclePsychosis

That's a good thing for MS50g owners but If you'd bought a CDR70 you'd be pretty pissed off round about now. 

Bidley

If they add them to the G3 that would be awesome.

gibsongretschfan

Apart from being stereo does the CDR have any advantages over the MS50? I kept hearing people saying it had better converters but was that just a myth?

handsomerik

UnclePsychosis said:

That's a good thing for MS50g owners but If you'd bought a CDR70 you'd be pretty pissed off round about now. 

And even more annoyed if you'd bought the Bluetooth one and then paid £1.99 for each extra effect from the App Store. 

paulphoenix

thanks for the heads up. i own the MS100 does this mean the firmware update is worthless to me? 

scrap the above - zoom announced last week that all the extra effects in the stompshare shop for the MS-100 are now free. 

Kebabkid

I've had the MS-50G and currently have the MS-70 CDR. I found there to be a difference in both pedals. Even if you had the preamp, cab sim aspects of the MS50G switched off, something messed with my board when used with other pedals and just didn't sound as good or clear as the CDR70 and I just couldn't get it to sit well with them (a mixture of true-bypass and buffered) and I messed around with the placement, too. A friend tried it with his board and noticed the same. Not so with the CDR.

I think as a standalone unit with the CDR70 updates and possible a couple of well-matched pedals, the MS50G's great.It's also a good back up or something for a small board. For the money, new or used,  the fact that these units have a decent tuner means that everything else, like a 2nd delay or some chorus etc is a bonus but there's so much more packed into these.

I've also had the Zoom bass stuff, too, like the B3 and MB60 and there were differences there with the B3 being the better sounding unit. I currently have their cheaper B1Xon and that's closer to the B3 but once again, there's a difference in sound and quality.

It's a shame there aren't any updates for the CDR and updates in general for the pedals mentioned have been very few and are slow coming.

menamestom

That's a good move, but can you update the other way round I wonder, if not then the MS50G becomes the one to have with everything.

I think perhaps Zoom have replacements in the pipeline.  Personally I think if they made a 2 button version of these with Tap tempo and did some better marketing, perhaps with uprated converters etc they could sell s bucket loads.  They probably did anyway, but they could charge a bit more if they were marketed as cheaper competition for Strymon etc and had the features players wanted. 

RocknRollDave

This is excellent news for me - I didn't even know my MS50g WAS updateable! I never noticed the USB socket before.
 Happy days!

DesVegas

Well done Zoom!! although i have the 100BT and am perfectly happy with that

RocknRollDave

RocknRollDave said:

This is excellent news for me - I didn't even know my MS50g WAS updateable! I never noticed the USB socket before.
 Happy days!

eeeeeeeexcept you need Windows 7 or newer, so that f*cks that for me

gibsongretschfan

Kebabkid said:

I've had the MS-50G and currently have the MS-70 CDR. I found there to be a difference in both pedals. Even if you had the preamp, cab sim aspects of the MS50G switched off, something messed with my board when used with other pedals and just didn't sound as good or clear as the CDR70 and I just couldn't get it to sit well with them (a mixture of true-bypass and buffered) and I messed around with the placement, too. A friend tried it with his board and noticed the same. Not so with the CDR.

I think as a standalone unit with the CDR70 updates and possible a couple of well-matched pedals, the MS50G's great.It's also a good back up or something for a small board. The fact that these units have a decent tuner means that everything else, like a 2nd delay or some chorus etc is a bonus but there's so much more in them.

I've also had the Zoom bass stuff, too, like the B3 and MB60 and there were differences there with the B3 being the better sounding unit. I currently have their cheaper B1Xon and that's closer to the B3 but once again, there's a difference in sound and quality.

It's a shame there aren't any updates for the CDR and updates in general for the pedals mentioned have been very few and are slow coming.

This js what I keep hearing.

i do think the MS50 "sucks tone" compared to something like a Line 6 M5 and always wondered if the CDR was different

I have used the ms50 extensively however as it is just so handy

handsomerik

RocknRollDave said:

RocknRollDave said:

This is excellent news for me - I didn't even know my MS50g WAS updateable! I never noticed the USB socket before.
 Happy days!

eeeeeeeexcept you need Windows 7 or newer, so that f*cks that for me

Can't you do it round a mates house? It only takes 5 mins!

sweepy

handsomerik said:

RocknRollDave said:

RocknRollDave said:

This is excellent news for me - I didn't even know my MS50g WAS updateable! I never noticed the USB socket before.
 Happy days!

eeeeeeeexcept you need Windows 7 or newer, so that f*cks that for me

Can't you do it round a mates house? It only takes 5 mins!

This is why I keep a cheap laptop hanging around the house as my other computers are Mac's,  you never know when it will be handy to have a Windows machine to hand

Artsutanov

By the way, the 100bt has now been discontinued.

RocknRollDave

handsomerik said:

RocknRollDave said:

RocknRollDave said:

This is excellent news for me - I didn't even know my MS50g WAS updateable! I never noticed the USB socket before.
 Happy days!

eeeeeeeexcept you need Windows 7 or newer, so that f*cks that for me

Can't you do it round a mates house? It only takes 5 mins!

Chap at work has offered to do it for me. Top bloke!

5redlights

Took a fair few attempts, but finally got mine updated with desired effects, and really chuffed with it! Was planning on selling and getting a CDR, so has saved me a lot of hassle and get to keep some decent amp sounds too.  

gibsongretschfan

What's everyone's pick of the new effects then? Any must-haves?

steer

The Klon Centaur was pretty awesome, the only effect I paid for on my ms100bt.

Can the MS100bt cope with me downloading every single add on effect, now that they are all free? Or is it's memory limited in any way? 

HEres the news by the way;
https://www.zoom.co.jp/StompShare_Free

DesVegas

steer said:

The Klon Centaur was pretty awesome, the only effect I paid for on my ms100bt.

Can the MS100bt cope with me downloading every single add on effect, now that they are all free? Or is it's memory limited in any way? 

HEres the news by the way;
https://www.zoom.co.jp/StompShare_Free

\o/

DesVegas

This is the best thing i have heard for a long time, i had a look on the wife's iPhone at lunch at the Stompshare store .. reverse reverb .. dual parallel reverbs .. bass flangers .. all for free now .. it's going to be a fun night tonight going through them all