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Have you never played a shit valve amp? I'm guessing you've never toured with rented or provided gear? Also guessing that you haven't worked out yet that feel of the whole band is more important than feel of your own gear?
Whether modelling vs amp offers better feel is a moot point.It's down to taste and experience. There can be no catch all sweeping statement. There are plenty of charting bands using modelling these days (Metallica and Garbage being two that spring to mind) as well as plenty of semi pro musicians.
Generally, at the moment I use an amp onstage, but that is for the simple reason that I can only afford one helix and I prefer to leave it plugged in and setup in my studio. However I would prefer to use the helix if:
I went on a tour with rented back line - consistency from gig to gig is huge and the whole band would be better for knowing that I'm not fighting some cheap, shit under-powered or inappropriate amp.
Big gigs where you are hearing your sound through a monitor. Might as well use a helix. As you are probably not hearing your amp anyway.
Festival gigs - A modeller would be so quick and easy to setup.
Fly dates - amp and pedal board in 1. (see @ChrisCox1994 thread about his Engleberg gig to see how useful a helix would have been).
As a depping guitarist, helix gives me access to a huge variety of tones - helping me to get the right sound for a band.
Without a doubt, in my mind the most important thing for me when I play live is that the band has a good, clear sound and that I can hear all of the others in the proportions that I need, with the same applying to them. I have been in lots of bands with ace gear, but that sound shit as two 4x12 stacks embark on a volume war, or the PA has no monitor and the singer can't hear anything etc, etc. The worst is "that guitarist" who has to have his amp "just so" and drowns out everything because his 100w amp has to be dimed to "feel" right.
At download a couple of years ago, most bands played with the same two backline fakes - blackstar or Marshall cabs. But I think more of the bands were using modellers than people would think, but they don't do much for show.
It's almost like he doesn't know there is a difference between truth and opinion.
https://soundcertified.com/speaker-ohms-calculator/
"You don't know what you've got till the whole thing's gone. The days are dark and the road is long."
It comes with loads. You can also use third party ones; some people insist that it sounds awful if you don't. I found there was a huge level difference between the inbuilt and the Ownhammer ones which probably explains why people think the latter sound better - they're just louder.
"You don't know what you've got till the whole thing's gone. The days are dark and the road is long."
Whatever room he's recording in is nice, the captures are well balanced, there's not much boomy/muddy junk in the lows (which can come from sub optimal/too small rooms) and the mixes are nicely in phase.
Plus they're comparatively cheap compared to many other companies
I'm not sure I could do that with IRs
A rack in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I was just posting my experiences, I've tried a lot of the competitor products and while there are great sounds from almost all of them I personally do think OH does the most consistent, well arranged product. So while they may be louder in some cases (the bass pack definitely is quite loud compared to some other bass IRs I have) that isn't the only reason people would prefer them.
In general endless scrolling would mean you're not sure what you're looking for (assuming most would stop upon finding what they wanted). In that kind of scenario it is better to have a bunch of broad strokes cabs to pick from so cab A, cab B, cab C etc until right flavour is found.
If you do know what you're looking for then it's much easier to go straight to cab A.1, if that's not quite right then cab A.2 or A.3 would be more useful than going to cab B or cab C, if that analogy makes sense.
My own opinion that it's better to start with the sound being as close to correct as possible before reaching for EQs etc. Flicking through IRs takes seconds, the way I do it I'm pretty much pressing up or down and hitting a chord in between to see if I've got the right one.
I'm not sure exactly how Helix dual cab works as I don't have a Helix and I stick with mono anyway.
While I'll agree there's less merit in small % changes in a live context, for recording they can make a big difference. If this was a real world situation in a recording studio with real mics and the mic position clearly wasn't quite right, in all likelihood the mic would get moved before a bunch of EQ got done. That's where I see the merit/value is in IR packs anyway. You can do all that sat on your backside listening at a comfortable volume.
with IRs you have to load a selection on and flick through them to decide how far you wanted the mic or if a 58 sounds better than a royer etc
The dual cab puts access to 2 cabs and 2 mics in one stereo block so you can have a Marshall 4x12 with greenback 25s with a sm7b at 1" on the left and a Matchless 2x12 with Alnico blues and a royer 121 on the right
It's just a lot easier to deal with IMO