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Effects for Me & my Monkey YouTube channel Facebook Fretboard's "resident pedal supremo" - mgaw
The Max, £650 for a pedal that can only really have one effect on at a time is a bit steep, considering the Helix LT is not much more. I appreciate you are paying for the Eventide crafted algorithms but at that price they should update the hardware to be able to run 3 or 4 simultaneous effects. Also with other manufacturers adding additional effects with free firmware updates ( Neaunaber, Fractal, Line 6, etc), the H9 looks particularily esoteric against the competition. Plus you can buy the Zoom version for £75
All that said, I would love one for my mini board!
obviously eventide know what they're doing with their algos, and know what to combine for some great sounds.
But it'd agree the lack of user options to simply run two existing algos at the same time (series or parallel) seems short sighted, and almost too pushy to get a second unit.
I had a H9 for a while, I found many of the sounds very good.
In the end I sold it and went down the Strymon route - few reasons:
1. I had a core and the price of the algorithms went up to £19.99 each, for that price - the Mobius actually worked out cheaper used!
2. Interface - I just found the Mobius easier to programme
3. Interface - switching presets is a pain without an add-on pedal, problem is if you do that you lose the expression input (unless you pay a lot more for a midi controller pedal)
4. Sounds - I found the Mobius better for the bread and butter modulations. The H9 wins because you can do more with it, the wah was great for example, as was the fuzz. But for chorus/phaser/flanger - I preferred the Mobius
I love mine. Using the app makes programming extremely simple, especially for using an expression pedal to change any of the parameters. I'd never use it without the app when forming a patch, but that's not really an issue.
So much more than a mod, delay and reverb pedal.
My music:- https://soundcloud.com/hubobulous
As such, you pay about £14 for an algorithm. Imagine my delight when I found that out.
The pedal interface is a PITA so I use an iPad to setup sounds and then use a midi switcher to recall those presets. Works for me but it's obviously very far from tweak on the board on the fly like a more traditional setup.
Having the iPad interface means it's quite nice not to have to bend down to the board to tweak things and I'm getting old these days :-)
So I'm a fanboi, but I probably wouldn't be without the iOS interface being available.
Yeah I've seen that, which is fair enough, but most MFX have combined effects. The Zoom G3 has similar slots. I'm not saying they are of the same quality, but it still would be nice at Eventide prices to give a little more for the $$$
I use use mine as @BintyTwanger77 suggested with just a dirt pedal, I have a loop switcher controlling midi signals to the H9 and Amp Switching.
Its beautiful, I've never heard fx like it, admittedly I've not tried Helix/AxeFx but they are light years ahead of any other unit I've ever tried/owned.
In many ways I relish the 'limitation' of running one Algorithm at once, as it forces me to use my fx more judiciously, otherwise EVERY preset would have wads of been, delay, modulation and pitch all over it.
Having said that, I bought a 2nd hand Core that came with a few purchased
Algos:
Chorus
Flanger
Phaser
Tape Echo
Vintage Delay
UltraTap
and I recently bought SpaceTime which is Delay/Reverb/Chorus in one.
I set up using Pre/Post so I can flip the h9 to be either in front of my amp or the loop, as an example of how versatile it is I can use it as a booster in the loop with verb and delay for my solo tone by pushing up the output on one preset, I pair my ancient IPad to it and I'm able to craft epic presets without even bending down in rehearsal.
I love mine, but I'm very much using it as it's been designed, not trying to make it fit my existing work method, I'm just lucky that my style suits it so well.
Awesome.
As I've said, for what it does, the flexibility, the size, the incredible sounds, the H9 is a work of engineering genius.
I just have it flip flip flopping around the signal chain.
For example one song.
Intro) Octave up and down,in front
Verse) H9 bypassed
PreChorus) Flanger, in front
Chorus) Phaser , in front
Middle8) SpaceTime huge verb and delay, in loop, using tap tempo
all from one unit all controlled by switcher so just one button tap for each option.
A lot is is said about you can only use one effect at once, but how often do you use multiple fx on a song?
maybe it's just me, but I rarely find myself using Delay and Verb and Mod and Pitch.......how often do you need 2 delays?
really the only time I stack fx is when I'm 'going ambient' then it's just SpaceTime or ModEchoVerb, or Ultratap.