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1.Carl Martin tuner
2.Thorpyfx SI Veteran
3.Thorpyfx Germanium Veteran
4.Effectrode Blackbird
5.EHX big box Small stone Phaser
6.Providence Chrono Delay
7.J Rockett Boing Reverb
Probably over a grands worth and I could sound pretty similar with Amp and a Reverb pedal but I love this shit! It’s like my train set (if I was into trains) I love trying stuff... but I’m under no illusion that it doesn’t make me a better player.
Money is earning dismal interest in the bank and most of my stuff can be liquidised into cash pretty quickly if the need arises...
I love the R.E.M lyric... “Another Prop has occupied my time” Well that’s how I feel about guitar stuff in general
How do you guys who can do the fx thing well approach it?
Truth is guitar reproduced complete flat sounds awful
I kinda know what the OP is getting at, you can go down a rabbit hole chasing the holy tone with a thousand pedals but all the time your having a good time and playing it's not a bad thing
For me, piling on the fx randomly over the top of a solo doesn't work, I guess that's what people mean when they say your hiding behind effects. I don't tend to do much with solos, beyond dirt and delay - but I go for quite rhythmic, tempo tapped delay, often with modulation.
I suppose, get to know your fx, how they interact with each other, you have to learn the sounds and how to play them Try them in odd combinations (way after dirt for example can be very gritty), reverb after dirt in stoner rock can be VERY effective.
The thing that has really helped me is getting a looper. Set up a riff before all the effects. Then you can twiddle the knobs to your hearts content and hear the interaction, without the distraction of playing.
Finally, space can be a big thing. If you have a lot of effects it can get mushy really quickly and you end up with sonic soup. Delay can be so cool if you let it have the space, and let the repast form part of the riff, I also found this with stutter effects (which I find insanely difficult to use) - they need some space to get going.
That's just your approach. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Many find pedals an integral part of their rig and sound, and even regard pedals as instruments in themselves. I doubt you would understand this, though.
Effects for Me & my Monkey YouTube channel Facebook Fretboard's "resident pedal supremo" - mgaw
I write everything usually on an unplugged electric.
I get all the notes and rhythms right first.
I then know that I love the sound of my jazzmaster into my hiwatt (base sound).
I then garnish the rest with an effect or two here or there.
I do have the occasional freak out though and make some weird and wonderful noises too, they don't lead to songs as often though. My main focus is writing songs, I have no interest in tone chasing and 7 stages of distortion on my pedal board
You can't ride in telling everyone else they are wrong because of narrow sightedness or your own opinion.
I really can't tell the difference on stage between a 500 quid reverb and a 50 quid reverb, the nuances are generally lost. Sure the good stuff is nice to own, but if you need a jet fighter flanger and a bit of slapback to keep your crazy drunk crowd on the boil it really doesn't matter that much what your pedal budget was.
I reckon we do mostly overthink the microscopic details of FX tone once we have the actually facilities or programmability we need, it's sometimes like an almost deliberate diversionary tactic from actually having to sit down and write a bloody song.
@p90fool I don't think the OPs point got missed.
He doesn't need that stuff. Sure no issue. Having listened to his tracks, I'd agree. It's no biggie what ever he uses as the FX are nothing more than a bit of colouration. But That's a very, very narrow view of FX and misses out a whole raft of players and playing style. He is only looking at it from a tone chasing point of view.
Pedals matter to me a lot, how they work, what options they have, how much control etc. I don't get by just fine with the music I liek to create. If I need a mercury 7, a Topanga is not going to cut it. Trust me, here the audience would hear the difference. For me they are not the icing on the cake, they are the cake.
He said so. He is wrong.
Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
Most of those types of players remain lifelong locked in their bedrooms and never gig(I said most!). You got my point....others didn't. I have spent a lot of money on FX, most recent purchase was my Helix. Do I regret it? No! I like FX....but I don't try to hide behind them. I'm not saying they are not important, and as someone mentioned a style like the edge depends on delay for example. Tom Morello liked the odd bit of whackyness (weird noises) in his playing to. But what I'd say is MOST and I mean well over 90% of anybody that's anybody in the guitar world uses FX sparingly - to add a bit of colouration here and there. The icing on the cake rather than being the cake itself. Prove me wrong kids? More than that and it becomes a cheap trick to the majority of players...and punters! Factory presets on multi FX are usually considered bad because they are OTT and as such useless in the real world outside of being a bedroom basher.
Like p90fool said - in a band mix who could tell a HOF from a Strymon ?
JezWynd
(bedroom basher)
A katana with a decent squire would probably be enough of a rig for anyone playing blues / rock. Right? A vox ac30 is certainly overkill.
People make music because they like doing it, there are a lot of ways to make music the creators and or audience will enjoy.
Lots of styles would be dull without effects of some sort. Some of the biggest gigs these days are in EDM/dance music, plenty of effects going on there.
I have no of idea the statistics so I'll make some up:
Over 90% of guitar players are not pro or semi-pro. Or even regular live players.
Lots -- hang on, 80% -- of bedroom noodlers are really happy to have an FX hobby as part of their interest in guitars.
As it happens I take your general point.
I play live most weekends and no, it probably doesn't matter what's on my small pedal board.
There's one pedal which is highly distinctive but the rest could be swapped out for other brands if I wanted to.
If you don't care about fancy pedals why have you spent so much money on FX? Why own a Helix? I thought a decent amp and a nice couple of dirt pedals were enough?