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The best ones are when people put in mint/excellent condition with only little wear n marks.
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To be honest just underlines how important good images are when buying/selling!
So, whereas the inexperienced buyer would think Exc++ means "flawless", in dealer-speak it means " pretty rough"
Anything approaching the wear, tear, fade that is equivalent to a Gibson VOS finish can't be MINT
plus you can't have mint for its age - ie on a 30 year guitar - that would have to be 'clean for a 30 year old' or 'very good condition for a 30 year old'
Near mint would probably just be minor pick markings etc
After that it is hard to fully evaluate as different players accept different levels of wear - no matter what adjective you use
If it came out of the factory with damage though surely it can still be classed as mint condition?
What annoys me is when people sell things on Ebay and call them New when they aren't. If selling things as New are you opening yourself up to distance selling regulations (or whatever the term is) so have to accept a return if the buyer changes their mind?
If you bought that guitar you'd be quite within your rights to send it back at seller's expense due to it clearly not being mint. You do wonder about the sanity/intelligence of a seller who calls something "mint" when it self-evidently isn't.
To me "mint" menas that if you took the guitar described as "mint" and placed it next to a brand-new same-model guitar from either the retailer or the importer there would be no difference in condition.
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