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BigLicks67
I'd be interested to know where your actually picking (on the string plane) on both the guitars in the clip - flatpickers almost always apply the plectrum to the strings just behind the s/hole or even nearer the bridge (except for 'vamping' chords) - thats where they get the sound they like that goes so well with bluegrass / ensemble playing.
It certainly sounds in that area - thing is OM's like to be played OVER the s/hole area - u get a rounder tone.
Just an observation.
omg - I haven't used the word 'vamping' for decades - is it still relevant / in use ?
I've slept since then : > but it was probably a little further forward than that, ie over the back edge of the sound hole and slightly more forward on the OM than the Dread. Hope that clears it up for you.
https://soundcloud.com/user-677296198/sr-1
https://soundcloud.com/user-677296198/ms-1
Thanks for posting @AliGorie
Ms- is an original 1931 Martin 000 (12 fret), spruce and Mahogany b/sides, the mother of 000’s and OM’s. so all the bracing positioning and dimensions are - as originally evolved.
the recording of the SR is good and I think the recording of the MS is done just with a video camera Mic - so it’s a little ‘thin’, still an impressively ‘modern’ sounding guitar.
One last thing - you hear a lot about 12 fretters having the bridge ‘In the right place’ - in the middle of the lower bout which gave a ‘better’ sound - this is a misconception, it’s because the old guitars were built to the old bridge / bracing pattern position that gave them ‘THAT sound - it was obvious the bridge was lower down but when the myth was being created they didn’t know about more subtle differences inside these guitars - so they just attributed it to the obvious.
bl67 heres a good trad/ modern version -
Down by the Sally Gardens by Mick O'Brien
Now ya know, have another listen to see why the original 000 and later OM models where deemed the fingerpickers dream guitar, and not for strummers.
If I was in the market for a solo fingerkicking guitar - 't would be a deep body'd 000 12 fr with cutaway.
Check this one out.
I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to
But I take yer point - there is potential in humble ol' maple.
A very fine sounding Dread I heard was by Nigel Forster.
I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to
Horses for courses innit, I don’t suppose a D35 would be ideal for that technical approach.
of the other two clips, I liked the woodiness of the M version. And again, i wish I could play like that!
Hedges reminded me of this quote - and ‘Got It’,
Master Piper George Moss “One must be prepared to do what the music requires of you“.
back to OP, what about these 12 fret Lowdens (with cutaway)?.
Thank you everyone who chimed in. Turns out I DO need a nice OM, and to satisfy that need there's something special incoming.....
First of all I have to declare a vested interest - I want to sell some high end Rosewood/Stka OMs!!
(Collings OM2H, Martin 000-28EC, as well as a Maple Taylor 614ce 2002 Limited Edition).
However, to answer your questions, well I suppose nobody really needs a nice OM, but they are rather yummy.
Personally I find Dreadnoughts visually unattractive (although I realise this shouldn't matter). However I have tried a few out over the years, and I can't say that I've found them to be generally less defined than an OM. They are just different, but then all guitars are.
They do tend to be louder, with more bass, but I don't find Rosewood OMs lacking bass in any way. The Dreadnought may be better in a purely acoustic club, (or busking).
I do find the OM body size much more comfortable to play (and cuter). Also I've found that Dreadnoughts seem to have a 1 11/16 inch (42.9 mm) nut width, whereas all my OMs are 1 3/4 inch (44.5 mm), which I much prefer.
You really need to try some OMs out (do you have a decent acoustic guitar shop anywhere near?) and see what floats your boat.
In addition to my guitars mentioned above, I have a Fylde Orsino, and two Santa Cruz OM "Pre-war" OMs. They all sound quite different - even the two SCs!! If I went for a different body size now, it would be smaller.
(I seem to have written more that I intended, but I can write more if you'd like ...),
Cheers
Bob