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The Marshall thing IMHO is often psychological to sound engineers though. My Blackstar Artisan 30 is far louder in 10watt mode than my Marshall TSL60 & 4 x 12 ever was. I get no shit from sound engineers nowadays because it looks less threatening. Whereas in the past I was being asked to turn it down before I’d even played a note.
Most guitarists.are just trying to hear themselves over the drummer. But for some reason, we get demonised more.
I knew the sound engineer - although until that point I didn't realise he was doing the gig - and he was just having a bit of fun, and he knew the joke very well... but there's a grain of truth in it.
(Although to be accurate, I think *any* valve guitar amp is louder than TSL60. It's the weakest-sounding "60W" amp I've ever heard.)
Partly because the drummer doesn't put the source of the sound on the floor where he can't hear it, and then produce a beam of death out into the audience because he doesn't realise how loud and trebly it is...
It baffles me that there are still guitar players doing this. Raising the amp up, tilting it back, pointing it sideways, or any combination of those *always* sounds better and makes it easier to mix as well as much easier to hear.
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Yes.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Is there any downside to a cabinet structured in this way?
The only problem I can think of with building it like that is than in a valve combo, it will conflict with the components on the underside of the chassis. That amp is solid-state.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
The channels on the JTM are interactive even when not jumpered, and you might find this thickens the sound just enough for you. Put it on max if you need to.
The JTM doesn't need much from the normal channel, so its often enough this way.
The 5E3 Deluxe is the same, as in another thread.
https://i.imgur.com/z2WN6YD.jpg
Actually I kind of wonder if habitually using the cab like this is why I’ve never experienced the directionality and projection issues which @ICBM reports as being characteristic of Marshall 1936 cabs, it definitely sounds way better and more consistent between on-stage and in the room that way...
Yes, a vertical 2x12" is far less directional than horizontal - I know that's counterintuitive. It also raises the top speaker up to about the right height where it correlates well with the out-front sound.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
The more I think of it the more reasons I can see why a vertical 2x12 on the floor is A Good Thing compared with a horizontal 2x12 on the floor. You get a smaller on-stage footprint, enhanced dispersion, the cab coupling to the floor for more bottom end, and a driver in free air at the right height for the top end. What’s not to love?
I can't think of anything else though... but in fact, depending on the type of music, the cab coupling to the floor isn't always a good thing. I've always found that the band mix is improved when the cab is decoupled, which rolls off the bottom octave and stops the guitar fighting with the bass - the bass cab needs to be tight down of course, so it *is* coupled. That way you get a more natural separation between the two instruments and both are audible better without the volumes and EQ mattering as much.
But of course, you can always raise your vertical cab slightly as well, if you want - it doesn't take much, even a few inches will usually do it.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
'course, now I'm Helixed-up, I'm going to be playing most gigs with the soon-to-arrive DXR10 either as a monitor with PA assistance, or as backline when the PA's not up to it. That's 1100W and a maximum 131dB SPL (apparently), and I make no apology for it
My solution to not being able to hear my 2x12 properly was to buy a second one and put it on top of the first. The bottom one is on casters to keep things a little tighter and to make it easier to transport.