Considering FX pedals again... Now Un-Helixed... Hexit?!

TimmyO

Eventide TimeFactor - every delay engine can run dual delays.

It was interesting to read this thread - I completely get why you're going this route, but I noticed myself have the reaction of "god, no way I'd be up for going back to patch cable and power supply shenanigans" - horses for courses and all that. 

Cool that you'll be able to sell it at no loss!

octatonic

Just hold onto the Helix and buy some pedals.

stickyfiddle

Kebabkid said:

stickyfiddle said:

So I have a Helix. It is extremely clever and capable (frankly much more than I am, most days) but I'm finding myself missing "real" pedals rather more than expected. ( @Kebabkid predicted this happening...) 

Sorry Mike. Just from our limited meet ups and observing thins on here for the past few years, you've always struck me as a pedal guy. Even down to BYOCs but on you for giving g it a go.
All the best

Hey, no worries Cos! I've enjoyed the process, and had half a feeling it might go this way but wanted to get it out of my system and be sure. It's a close thing, but you're right - I do really enjoy the mechanical element of a real pedal board. I'm sure I'd be less keen if I was gigging snd wanted loads of sounds and easy setup, but I'm not

stickyfiddle

TimmyO said:

Eventide TimeFactor - every delay engine can run dual delays.

It was interesting to read this thread - I completely get why you're going this route, but I noticed myself have the reaction of "god, no way I'd be up for going back to patch cable and power supply shenanigans" - horses for courses and all that. 

Cool that you'll be able to sell it at no loss!

I've always quite enjoyed the logistics planning end of it, so that doesn't put me off.

As for the Timefactor, I know it's brilliant as I've had three, but to use it easily you need an extra foot switch with at less than 2 buttons which becomes a bit of a pain. The Empress has me excited and sounds better than the Timefactor so I'll definitely go that way for now. You have my permission to laugh at me if I sell and replace with a TF!  

Musicman20

I've recently bought a Helix and this will be the last piece of fairly expensive gear I buy for a while, because there is so much to try out with it.

However, I am selling zero pedal! I enjoy collecting them and using them for their advantages and quirks.

The SA Nemesis is a FINE delay.

stickyfiddle

It begins...

Cirrus

stickyfiddle said:

It's because OK Computer is covered in Small Stone and I've never had one and no-one makes anything like it - even the multi-modulaition type pedals don't model it. It's actually quite strange.

There's one on the Zoom CDR-70 for what it's worth, following the recent update... no idea how it compares.

UnclePsychosis

stickyfiddle said:

It begins...

-I can't for the life of me work out how you'll ever reach the switch on that small stone. Are you going to raise the back tier? 

stickyfiddle

UnclePsychosis said:

stickyfiddle said:

It begins...

-I can't for the life of me work out how you'll ever reach the switch on that small stone. Are you going to raise the back tier? 

This is *far* from a final layout! I'm just trying to work out options for flexibility at the moment, and I was quite bored today at work! Pedaltrains are angled, so I know it's not too bad, but I'm using the Gold Class as a "blackface flavour" box, so it wouldn't need regular switching. Might be worth swapping that with the SS.

I'm wondering if a full-fat Whammy V is still the optimum octave effect for what want, even if it's huge. The Ricochet looks fun but doesn't have dry+octave down, and the POGs don't do Whammy noises, obviously.

I also wonder if a Deco might be unnecessary if I get the Empress. I guess I'll ge the delay first then see how good its tape modes are.

Digital_Igloo

There's nothing wrong with wanting Helix to replace existing gear, nor is there anything wrong with dumping it if it doesn't meet that particular use case, but know that we didn't design Helix to replace any gear—we designed it to act as the centerpiece of a bigger rig. Keep your amps, run them in 4CM, keep your favorite pedals, connect 'em to Helix's four effects loops, control the whole thing via MIDI, Amp Remote outs, and CV...

Better reverbs are coming.

Drew_TNBD

Digital_Igloo said:

There's nothing wrong with wanting Helix to replace existing gear, nor is there anything wrong with dumping it if it doesn't meet that particular use case, but know that we didn't design Helix to replace any gear—we designed it to act as the centerpiece of a bigger rig. Keep your amps, run them in 4CM, keep your favorite pedals, connect 'em to Helix's four effects loops, control the whole thing via MIDI, Amp Remote outs, and CV...

That's kind of my problem. I love the endless possibilities and the 'big rig' ideas... but because I don't drive and have the body of a small child with malnutrition, I can't carry all of my gear to and from the practice room on the train. So I've just decided to stick with Helix standalone, without adding any Big Sky's or Timeline's or anything like that.

Better reverbs are coming.

This is moistness to my earrrrssssssss.

stickyfiddle

Digital_Igloo said:

There's nothing wrong with wanting Helix to replace existing gear, nor is there anything wrong with dumping it if it doesn't meet that particular use case, but know that we didn't design Helix to replace any gear—we designed it to act as the centerpiece of a bigger rig. Keep your amps, run them in 4CM, keep your favorite pedals, connect 'em to Helix's four effects loops, control the whole thing via MIDI, Amp Remote outs, and CV...

Better reverbs are coming.

I think this is an excellent position to take, and one I don't disagree with at all. For me, I use it almost exclusively in front of my amp, but spend half my time trying to make it sound like other pedals rather than making the most of what it can do, which for me feels like a waste. 

But if I was gigging again in any of my old bands I'd be extremely happy with it as a one-stop solution to so many problems. 

BintyTwanger77

Digital_Igloo said:

There's nothing wrong with wanting Helix to replace existing gear, nor is there anything wrong with dumping it if it doesn't meet that particular use case, but know that we didn't design Helix to replace any gear—we designed it to act as the centerpiece of a bigger rig. Keep your amps, run them in 4CM, keep your favorite pedals, connect 'em to Helix's four effects loops, control the whole thing via MIDI, Amp Remote outs, and CV...

Better reverbs are coming.

Well now you're beginning to give me reasons to try a multiFX alongside my pedals again. Aargh!

I will resist this time.

NelsonP

siraxeman said:ju

Try the awesome  "no man ever went to the moon" reverb pedal and the unbelievable Flat Earth pitch shifter. Well worth flogging the helix to find. And even though you like some of the drives you kept you gotta go try the Edge of Earth od/dist pedal. They're not cheap but they're "the truth" range of amazeballs pedals. Check 'em! ;-)

Wait....is the earth flat then?

stickyfiddle

Helix is gone. I'm going shopping  

I got given a Deco and a Whammy for my birthday, so I'm in gooooood shape