Diesel filling pump newbie - what am I doing wrong?

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OK, I searched the internet looking for advice, but I'm stumped. I have a diesel hire car at the moment, a Jaguar XE, and I can't for the life of me get a good flow going from a diesel pump. It cuts off with the slightest finger pressure on the "trigger". The nozzle also doesn't seem to go very far into the neck of the fuel tank. Do I need to try to force it in further? It just seems to come to a hard stop. I need to have the nozzle most of the way out to get any flow at all.

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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 1920
    OK, I searched the internet looking for advice, but I'm stumped. I have a diesel hire car at the moment, a Jaguar XE, and I can't for the life of me get a good flow going from a diesel pump. It cuts off with the slightest finger pressure on the "trigger". The nozzle also doesn't seem to go very far into the neck of the fuel tank. Do I need to try to force it in further? It just seems to come to a hard stop. I need to have the nozzle most of the way out to get any flow at all.

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    Sounds like a fault of the fuel tank neck or the nozzle rather than anything you’re doing wrong! I’m not sure there’s a particular technique!
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 3826
    BRISTOL86 said:
    OK, I searched the internet looking for advice, but I'm stumped. I have a diesel hire car at the moment, a Jaguar XE, and I can't for the life of me get a good flow going from a diesel pump. It cuts off with the slightest finger pressure on the "trigger". The nozzle also doesn't seem to go very far into the neck of the fuel tank. Do I need to try to force it in further? It just seems to come to a hard stop. I need to have the nozzle most of the way out to get any flow at all.

    Help!
    Sounds like a fault of the fuel tank neck or the nozzle rather than anything you’re doing wrong! I’m not sure there’s a particular technique!
    Cheers, I didn't think so either. I've had diesel cars before, just not for 6 years or so. It happened on different pumps too, all at a Sainsbury's. I'm guessing the neck of the tank, maybe I should peruse the Jag manual.
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 3826
    Hmm, maybe the misfuelling protection devcice is partially deployed or something, there should be a resetting tool in the boot. I shall investigate!
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  • DefaultMDefaultM Frets: 7427
    I just stick it in and keep going til it can take no more...
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 28354
    some nozzles are faulty. Bloody annoying when you get one. I usually find that an incredibly light touch, just enough to get the flow starting works best
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  • RiftAmpsRiftAmps Frets: 3214
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    Common problem, when the nozzle is inserted you need to provide downward pressure on the handle to help angle the tip upwards, if that makes sense?

    Also happens to most JLR or Ford diesel vehicles manufactured after March 2008 - they all share the same anti-syphon and wrong fuel-nozzle technology.
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  • JAYJOJAYJO Frets: 1533
    Put some hair around the neck of the fuel tank Itll soon go in.
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 3826
    RiftAmps said:
    Common problem, when the nozzle is inserted you need to provide downward pressure on the handle to help angle the tip upwards, if that makes sense?

    Also happens to most JLR or Ford diesel vehicles manufactured after March 2008 - they all share the same anti-syphon and wrong fuel-nozzle technology.
    Aha, thanks, that makes sense, the misfuelling thingy comes down from the top of the neck. I'll try the reset tool as well.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 73031
    It's just God's way of telling you not to use the Fuel Of Satan.











    :)

    Years ago my Dad had a (petrol) Vauxhall Astra that had some sort of problem like that, it would take about 20 minutes to fill the tank and really piss off anyone waiting behind him. If I remember rightly it was caused by a kink in the filler pipe when it had been installed. Vauxhall wouldn't fix it because that would have required changing the whole petrol tank, which was a huge job and they didn't accept that it was a serious enough issue.

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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 12508
    Just a thought but you’re sure it’s actually a diesel, right? It does sound like the misfuelling device is kicking in. 
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 3826
    boogieman said:
    Just a thought but you’re sure it’s actually a diesel, right? It does sound like the misfuelling device is kicking in. 
    I checked about 10 times. Big yellow cap, with "diesel" written on it, and an engine which sounds like it belongs on a farm! :)
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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 12508
    boogieman said:
    Just a thought but you’re sure it’s actually a diesel, right? It does sound like the misfuelling device is kicking in. 
    I checked about 10 times. Big yellow cap, with "diesel" written on it, and an engine which sounds like it belongs on a farm! :)
    Yeah, that sounds like a diesel all right.  :3
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  • VimFuegoVimFuego Frets: 15844
    had something like that on my hyundai, depending on where I took it. I just used to slightly pull the nozzle out and that seemed to work. I got adept at hearing when it was about to fill, so could stop just short of splashback.

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  • blobbblobb Frets: 3117
    Debris in the filler tube? Worth checking, just get up close and peer into the filler pipe. It's a bit dark in there so you may need some illumination while you do it, nothing hefty required. A match should do the trick.
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  • Paul_CPaul_C Frets: 7922

    Unless it's hot enough you could drop the match into the diesel and all it would do is go out.
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 7350
    try pumping some unleaded in and see if that makes a difference...
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  • AlexCAlexC Frets: 2396
    A thread about faulty nozzles! (Giggles childishly)
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 16275
    our Petrol voyager always did this
    Try putting nozzle in then withdrawing so it's only just in and let fuel flow slowly
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  • MayneheadMaynehead Frets: 1782
    When this happens to me I just pull it out slightly and the fuel will flow freely again.
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 3826
    It was the misfuelling device thingy. I used the supplied tool and that sesee to have done the trick. Cheers for all the advice.
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