Nano pedals with rear mounted input/output jacks?

lukedlb

Regular pedal cables inserted on the sides of the nano range of pedals tend to negate the space saved by small pedals. Couldn't the enclosure height be increased to permit both jacks rear mounted one of top of the other? Or is this a silly idea in the making, not to mention cost ineffective for the unnecessarily large enclosure.
I suppose using solderless cables from evidence audio would help with the space loss. The extra height might make the pedal unstable when pressing the footswitch.

lukedlb

Even one rear mounted might be enough. the power jack could go on the side of the other jack.

lukedlb

If a line of nanos were lined up, one almost touching the next, there wouldn't be the space for a precise foot to depress the footswitch. However, if they were on loops...

starwarsnosebleed

I have a Raingerfx Dr.Freakenstein dwarf with both guitar jacks, 9v input and input for the expression/pressure pad all on the top end of the (slightly higher) mini enclosure.

I have to say i love the enclosure and design, although you can only use very slim guitar leads, as the inputs are a bit too close together.... no pancacke leads etc...

stickyfiddle

lukedlb said:

If a line of nanos were lined up, one almost touching the next, there wouldn't be the space for a precise foot to depress the footswitch. However, if they were on loops...

...then you'd still have spent loads of money and have a big pedalboard anyway?

lukedlb

stickyfiddle said:

lukedlb said:

If a line of nanos were lined up, one almost touching the next, there wouldn't be the space for a precise foot to depress the footswitch. However, if they were on loops...

...then you'd still have spent loads of money and have a big pedalboard anyway?

True. 
The nano enclosures, layered circuit boards, digital controls over analogue signal, one pot and one switch combinations, etc are defining the musician friendly (weight and size) pedalboards of the future. However, the side inputs seems a bit backwards, especially since the power is on the back (why not the side too?).

lukedlb

starwarsnosebleed said:

I have a Raingerfx Dr.Freakenstein with both guitar jacks, 9v input and input for the expression/pressure pad all on the top end of the (slightly higher) mini enclosure.

I have to say i love the enclosure and design, although you can only use very slim guitar leads, as the inputs are a bit too close together.... no pancacke leads etc...

Wow! Exactly what I meant. Now that’s the future. 
Are the jacks one directly on top of the other? Do L-shaped jacks work? I’ve long wondered whether an extended barrel jack (rather than an extension jack) exists so that the long L could sit over the normal L. 

EricTheWeary

With the nano pedals the sockets are always ( I think) staggered ( presumably have to be ) so if you only use nano pedals they should fit fairly close together. If they are right up to each other they wouldn't be useable unless you have tiny, tiny feet. 
My bigger issue tends to be the placement of the 9v socket which is invariably in the way, although that's also true on bigger pedals like MXR. 

english_bob

I imagine cramming two jacks on to the narrow side of a 1590A size enclosure would severely limit the types of jack plugs you could use. If it meant making up special cables so that I could use it, I'd think twice about buying the pedal. 

Not to mention the internal space it would take up- two rear-mounted jacks would take up almost half of the internal space available (even if you didn't have to stagger them), whereas two side mounted jacks can, with careful measurement, be made to fit it a pretty small amount of space. Notice also that the screw attachments limit the space available:




The Dr Freakenstein's Dwarf approach is pretty good actually, but uses a different sized enclosure:

lukedlb

If the power were above the igor, the input and output could both be L jacks. A shame that. Still, I'm impressed by the Dr. Freakenstein approach.

timbuk02

lukedlb said:

Regular pedal cables inserted on the sides of the nano range of pedals tend to negate the space saved by small pedals. 

Think this was the idea behind Red Witch's line of mini pedals as they designed their own small enclosure with top mounted jacks. Their built in rechargeable lithium ion battery seemed a sensible idea too. Guess in the context of a varied pedalboard neither feature matters so much as haven't seen them on many pedalboards...

crunchman

Unless you are running some kind of loop switching thing to control it all, I don't really see the point of all these puny pedals.  Anything smaller than an MXR size box, and they are too close together.  If I'm singing and playing guitar at the same time, it's hard enough to be sure I'm hitting the right pedal with a normal pedal size.