Keith Richards = Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged?

Phil_aka_Pip

http://www.nme.com/photos/the-razor-tongue-of-keith-richards-17-artists-he-s-slammed-from-david-bowie-to-oasis-1406001

• He's lived way longer than anyone might reasonably expect, given his lifestyle
• He's insulted a lot of people (but whether he did it in alphabetical order I couldn't say)

Ravenous

Elton John's comeback was spectacularly good though:

"It’s like a monkey with arthritis, trying to go on stage and look young."

bingefeller

I wonder what some of those artists he insulted would think about Dirty Work?

Phil_aka_Pip

He was absolutely right about "Rap music in general"

randella

Given what he's ripped off down the years he might want to take a look in the mirror - ideally one that's wall mounted and not sitting on the coffee table with a rolled-up twenty.

Bloody funny though, and he was right about the Grateful Dead.  Sid Vicious deploying a classic comeback but Elton's just about pips it.

proggy

Phil_aka_Pip said:

He was absolutely right about "Rap music in general"

You are a man after my own heart.

Wiz'd

ICBM

Hmmm... maybe he should stick to dicking around in Johnny Depp movies now.

He's a legend, but clearly one who doesn't really listen to music.

Lodious

I love some of his music, but after reading his autobiography, I think he's a tool. 

axisus

It's just one guys ranting. To be honest I think that the fools are those that feel they need to give a retort

chillidoggy

I have to agree with him on some, though.

HAL9000

Lodious said:

I love some of his music, but after reading his autobiography, I think he's a tool. 

^ Absolutely this.

m_c

I like Keith for the fact he just says what he's thinking with no diplomacy, and doesn't really care what others think about him.

SRich

m_c said:

I like Keith for the fact he just says what he's thinking with no diplomacy, and doesn't really care what others think about him.

In a situation like this, always ask the question: "What would Keef do?" 

Ravenous

SRich said:

m_c said:

I like Keith for the fact he just says what he's thinking with no diplomacy, and doesn't really care what others think about him.

In a situation like this, always ask the question: "What would Keef do?" 

He'd clonk the lot of us in the head with a Telecaster of course

Teetonetal

Razor tongue? Hardly. 

Phil_aka_Pip said:

He was absolutely right about "Rap music in general"

Any of us could piss on any form of music we don't like. 

He's just one old man ranting, which is a shame.

p90fool

I like ol' Keef, but street styles like rap are hardly likely to push the buttons of a grammar school boy who's been a millionaire since he was a teenager. 

ICBM

Teetonetal said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

He was absolutely right about "Rap music in general"

Any of us could piss on any form of music we don't like understand. 

He's just one old man ranting, which is a shame.

I'm not a massive rap/hip hop fan either - although there is some I like, at the more accessible end of the spectrum - but I wouldn't dismiss it as crap. What makes good rap good is completely different from what makes rock'n'roll good, in general.

I'm pretty sure Bowie wasn't all just posing either...

Phil_aka_Pip

I don't like Rap for reasons other than the reasons for which I don't like Country, 19th Century music from the "classical" tradition, and quite a lot of 'pop'. For those kinds of music they are not to my taste. Rap is different. Most people would agree that music consists of rhythm, melody, and harmony; these elements are present in different proportions when you consider for example the differences between Indian music and Renaissance polyphony, but I think you can argue that all 3 elements do exist in some form. You can't say that about Rap. I'm not saying it isn't entertainment or that it can't carry a message, but it does strike me more as poetry accompanied by a drum beat, and as such two vital elements are missing: melody and harmony. Hence I 100% agree with Keef. (Cue protests from rap lovers ...)

CHRISB50

Phil_aka_Pip said:

I don't like Rap for reasons other than the reasons for which I don't like Country, 19th Century music from the "classical" tradition, and quite a lot of 'pop'. For those kinds of music they are not to my taste. Rap is different. Most people would agree that music consists of rhythm, melody, and harmony; these elements are present in different proportions when you consider for example the differences between Indian music and Renaissance polyphony, but I think you can argue that all 3 elements do exist in some form. You can't say that about Rap. I'm not saying it isn't entertainment or that it can't carry a message, but it does strike me more as poetry accompanied by a drum beat, and as such two vital elements are missing: melody and harmony. Hence I 100% agree with Keef. (Cue protests from rap lovers ...)

You are pigeon holing a very diverse genre. It's not all the same, and it's not all purely beats and lyrics. I can assure you rap music can have all the elements you require, to call itself music. 

Phil_aka_Pip

@CHRISB50 OK, I just haven't heard any. That which I have heard, I don't call music, and it doesn't make me think "I must listen to some more of this".

Winny_Pooh

This is ace though