I've recently acquired a very nice matamp 1x12 cab from
@davedave. Sounds great. I'd like to use it as an extension cab for my (1x12) Matamp King St. combo, which will mean swapping out the speaker (8ohm currently) for a 16ohm one - just trying to decide what that will be.
The cab is marked 'V30' on the rear, so that would be the obvious choice of replacement. However the combo is currently fitted with a G12 Century Vintage, which I understand to be a neo version of the V30, so presumably they won't sound that distinct? Something with a different/complimentary sound would be good.
I've had a search around and found this list of suggested pairings from the Celestion site:
G12H Anniversary / Celestion Blue
Celestion Gold / Vintage 30
Heritage Series G12M / Heritage Series G12H(55)
G12M Greenback / Vintage 30
Vintage 30 / G12T-75
The Gold, or a Creamback, plus the G12 Century Vintage I've got (or a V30) sounds an interesting combination. Any thoughts / suggestions? I'm not dead set on keeping the G12, I like it, and the light weight is great, but open to changing things around too.
Sounds-wise I'm probably looking for a bit of an all rounder. I don't play super high-gain metal or very clean jazz etc, just looking for a fairly versatile 'rock' sound I suppose.
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Glad it arrived safe.
If you have a look on lean business or hotrox they list the specs.
Aim for something with the same sensitivity (db). I'm pretty sure that that is the measure of volume. 3db difference might not sound much, but it really is.
I think v30s are 99db. Have a look at Taydens. The high Brit is 99db.
The other thing to watch is getting something of the same wattage as the amps power gets split equally between the speakers.
My knowledge on this is fairly limited, so second opinions may well prove to be a good idea.
Dave.
A Gold plus a Neo would be an interesting combination but I have had little sonic experience of either (lugs are not up to differentiating speakers anyway!).
The Gold is VERY sensitive! Even louder than a V30 I found on a very short test. The Century is a dB or so behind a V30 IIRC?
Dave.
Combinations I really like...
G12H-30/G12M-25
V30/Classic Lead 80
V30/Gold
V30/G12T-75
Combinations I don't like...
V30/G12M-25 (too mismatched for power, too similar tonally so it sounds unbalanced, the V30 dominates)
V30/G12H-30 (just because it's too mismatched for power, it sounds OK)
The power rating issue is fine as long as the total (double the lower-rated speaker, not the sum of the two) is less than the amp, but it still seems counterproductive to me to make a pair which has a lower (or even the same) rating as one of the speakers by itself... especially when it results in a speaker which does like being pushed hard (like a V30) being limited by one that doesn't (like a G12H-30).
G12H-30/Blue is good despite the 2:1 rating difference because the Blue likes being thrashed.
I haven't tried the M (65W) and H (75W) Creambacks yet, but I'd bet they will sound good together too.
Matamp also seem to like the G12T-100 'Hot 100', which is quite middy like a G12M-25, although it sounds a bit 'flatter' to me. Might sound good with the Century and is cheap...
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^^ They do but the V30 is loads more efficient than a T75 - you'd think it'd get drowned out but it's definitely there. I think it can depend on the amp too.
I'm running a V30/G12H-30 mix and I think it sounds great. I've run them with an 18w as a pair and now run a 50w Marshall 2502 with a 1922 with the same mix as a quad (v30s in the combo and H's in the cab).. but as @ICBM says they don't really work together once the G12H-30 gets up towards it's rating. As you can see from my rig though I've never really pushed them that far.
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