PSA - 'vintage' guitars on Antiques Roadshow

TheOtherDennis

I've put 'vintage' in inverted commas because they're not on yet at time of writing (8.28pm), but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of some of the more knowledgeable members on what's shown, particularly the valuations.

Funkfingers

Is it a fresh edition of the programme or a Covid-19 lockdown repeat just to occupy air time? In the latter case, the gear may have already been discussed.

TheOtherDennis

Can't say, tbh, but I think it may be new - it's in Bristol, at the airfield that built Concorde (and thus has several Concrode related items).

Others who have seen the programme before may be able to say more.

TheOtherDennis

They're on now. A Starway, a Hofner Verithin and a Gibson 68 Gold Top, apparently converted by Dick Knight to look like a 58.

They're in the "cheap, mid, dearest" section.

TheOtherDennis

The expert is saying the Starway is worth about £300, the Verithin about £1500 and the Gibbo (which he said was owned by one of the Stones' roadies) about £10k.

Epsilon

Don't know about the Starway, but those prices seem very high for the Hofner and Gibson.

Funkfingers

An original Starway is a very humdrum electric guitar that sells largely due to the Peter Shelley connection. 

The Eastwood “Pete Shelley” outfit was an intentionally limited edition recreation of the man’s personal guitar, complete without the top portion of the body and offered at a ridiculous price. 

IMO, the charm of the original lay not in the guitar but in what Pete did with it.

Q: Was the Stones “roadie” Stephen Barber? 

DB1

I think £10k is about right for an unmolested '68, but the Hofner does sound a bit OTT.

ICBM

I'd say about half those prices for all of them.

TheOtherDennis

DB1 said:

I think £10k is about right for an unmolested '68, but the Hofner does sound a bit OTT.

Funkfingers said:

An original Starway is a very humdrum electric guitar that sells largely due to the Peter Shelley connection. 

The Eastwood “Pete Shelley” outfit was an intentionally limited edition recreation of the man’s personal guitar, complete without the top portion of the body and offered at a ridiculous price. 

IMO, the charm of the original lay not in the guitar but in what Pete did with it.

Q: Was the Stones “roadie” Stephen Barber? 

Yes, it was. He said it had been played on a Stones record, but I missed which one because I was typing. Sorry.

Epsilon said:

Don't know about the Starway, but those prices seem very high for the Hofner and Gibson.

It wasn't unmolested, it had apparently been 'tweaked' to look like a 58. And it had a wraparound tailpiece.

Funkfingers

Stephen Barber is a bit more than a mere roadie or, even, a guitar tech. The guy is a proper luthier. He builds yer actual lutes. 

TheOtherDennis said: 

Yes, it was. He said it had been played on a Stones record but I missed which one because I was typing.

Now, if the person touting the Gibson were Stephen’s brother, Jim, the roadie and recording stories are true. (Too Much Blood from the album Undercover.) I have also been shown photographs of Jim playing bass with Keith Richards whilst the latter worked out some chord progression. 

hassleham

Slightly unrelated but still amusing - I saw this clip from an episode of "Pawn Stars"  from 2013 on Youtube. I thought the valuation from the "expert" seemed very high and that Vic was lucky to get that much for the guitar. I googled it afterwards and it turns out that it sold at auction in 2014 for $25k! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m0vVubKXtY

duotone

hassleham said:

Slightly unrelated but still amusing - I saw this clip from an episode of "Pawn Stars"  from 2013 on Youtube. I thought the valuation from the "expert" seemed very high and that Vic was lucky to get that much for the guitar. I googled it afterwards and it turns out that it sold at auction in 2014 for $25k! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m0vVubKXtY

@hassleham ;

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hassleham

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Penn

ICBM said:

I'd say about half those prices for all of them.

I thought it was overly high for them to.