Comments split from Classified thread

Bridgehouse

This discussion was created from comments split from: 1968/9 gibson les paul goldtop(top refinish)6k or poss trades.

John_P

Bridgehouse said:

You need pictures or I’ll pull this ad.

Not sure if that is a joke as I can't wait to see some pics as well - sounds like a very cool guitar.   

If it's not a joke then it's a strange comment to make as there isn't a rule saying pics "must" be included and he is offering to email them in the same way many other sellers do.

Hattigol

It kind of is a rule...

https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/1273/

Bridgehouse

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

You need pictures or I’ll pull this ad.

Not sure if that is a joke as I can't wait to see some pics as well - sounds like a very cool guitar.   

If it's not a joke then it's a strange comment to make as there isn't a rule saying pics "must" be included and he is offering to email them in the same way many other sellers do.

Quite simply, without pics we have no way of knowing if the OP is selling a fake or anything else that we do not allow. That’s why we need pictures. The rules quoted have been superseded by the requirement to ensure no fakes are listed. 

Why would a moderator joke about a classified?

John_P

Bridgehouse said:

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

You need pictures or I’ll pull this ad.

Not sure if that is a joke as I can't wait to see some pics as well - sounds like a very cool guitar.   

If it's not a joke then it's a strange comment to make as there isn't a rule saying pics "must" be included and he is offering to email them in the same way many other sellers do.

Quite simply, without pics we have no way of knowing if the OP is selling a fake or anything else that we do not allow. That’s why we need pictures. The rules quoted have been superseded by the requirement to ensure no fakes are listed. 

Why would a moderator joke about a classified?

Was there something in the ad that made you suspect it was a fake or had a logo that didn’t belong on the guitar?      Totally agree that replicas with a logo shouldn’t be allowed and pics help with that but If you’re asking for pics to prove something isn’t a fake that  could apply to anything that anyone could be selling and unless I’m misunderstanding the point then pics are now a requirement for all sales rather than recommended.  

Bridgehouse

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

You need pictures or I’ll pull this ad.

Not sure if that is a joke as I can't wait to see some pics as well - sounds like a very cool guitar.   

If it's not a joke then it's a strange comment to make as there isn't a rule saying pics "must" be included and he is offering to email them in the same way many other sellers do.

Quite simply, without pics we have no way of knowing if the OP is selling a fake or anything else that we do not allow. That’s why we need pictures. The rules quoted have been superseded by the requirement to ensure no fakes are listed. 

Why would a moderator joke about a classified?

Was there something in the ad that made you suspect it was a fake or had a logo that didn’t belong on the guitar?      Totally agree that replicas with a logo shouldn’t be allowed and pics help with that but If you’re asking for pics to prove something isn’t a fake that  could apply to anything that anyone could be selling and unless I’m misunderstanding the point then pics are now a requirement for all sales rather than recommended.  

The rules link that Hattigol posted is out of date. 

The rules link at the top of the Guitars £ section clearly says:

3.You should post some good quality pictures.  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/54241/posting-pics-vids-soundclips-how-to

Which means exactly what it says. 

I have also split this discussion out from the classifieds as it's grossly unfair on the person trying to sell their Guitar. 
There was nothing in the ad that made me suspect, other than there were no pictures, which is a) against rule 3 and b) means we can't determine what the item actually is. 

Funkfingers

... or, equally importantly, its condition.

UnclePsychosis

Bridgehouse said:

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

You need pictures or I’ll pull this ad.

Not sure if that is a joke as I can't wait to see some pics as well - sounds like a very cool guitar.   

If it's not a joke then it's a strange comment to make as there isn't a rule saying pics "must" be included and he is offering to email them in the same way many other sellers do.

Quite simply, without pics we have no way of knowing if the OP is selling a fake or anything else that we do not allow. That’s why we need pictures. The rules quoted have been superseded by the requirement to ensure no fakes are listed. 

Why would a moderator joke about a classified?

Was there something in the ad that made you suspect it was a fake or had a logo that didn’t belong on the guitar?      Totally agree that replicas with a logo shouldn’t be allowed and pics help with that but If you’re asking for pics to prove something isn’t a fake that  could apply to anything that anyone could be selling and unless I’m misunderstanding the point then pics are now a requirement for all sales rather than recommended.  

The rules link that Hattigol posted is out of date. 

The rules link at the top of the Guitars £ section clearly says:

3.You should post some good quality pictures.  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/54241/posting-pics-vids-soundclips-how-to

Which means exactly what it says. 

I have also split this discussion out from the classifieds as it's grossly unfair on the person trying to sell their Guitar. 
There was nothing in the ad that made me suspect, other than there were no pictures, which is a) against rule 3 and b) means we can't determine what the item actually is. 

Here's the problem though, the word 'should' is not synonymous with the word 'must'. Saying 'you should post pictures' has literally a different meaning to 'you must post pictures'. 

When at least one of the other rules says "you must..." then it seems very harsh to me to interpret a separate rule that says "you should..." in the same manner. 

steveledzep

A picture is worth a thousand words.  Why would you not post a picture.....unless there's something to hide ?

John_P

UnclePsychosis said:

Bridgehouse said:

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

John_P said:

Bridgehouse said:

You need pictures or I’ll pull this ad.

Not sure if that is a joke as I can't wait to see some pics as well - sounds like a very cool guitar.   

If it's not a joke then it's a strange comment to make as there isn't a rule saying pics "must" be included and he is offering to email them in the same way many other sellers do.

Quite simply, without pics we have no way of knowing if the OP is selling a fake or anything else that we do not allow. That’s why we need pictures. The rules quoted have been superseded by the requirement to ensure no fakes are listed. 

Why would a moderator joke about a classified?

Was there something in the ad that made you suspect it was a fake or had a logo that didn’t belong on the guitar?      Totally agree that replicas with a logo shouldn’t be allowed and pics help with that but If you’re asking for pics to prove something isn’t a fake that  could apply to anything that anyone could be selling and unless I’m misunderstanding the point then pics are now a requirement for all sales rather than recommended.  

The rules link that Hattigol posted is out of date. 

The rules link at the top of the Guitars £ section clearly says:

3.You should post some good quality pictures.  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/54241/posting-pics-vids-soundclips-how-to

Which means exactly what it says. 

I have also split this discussion out from the classifieds as it's grossly unfair on the person trying to sell their Guitar. 
There was nothing in the ad that made me suspect, other than there were no pictures, which is a) against rule 3 and b) means we can't determine what the item actually is. 

Here's the problem though, the word 'should' is not synonymous with the word 'must'. Saying 'you should post pictures' has literally a different meaning to 'you must post pictures'. 

When at least one of the other rules says "you must..." then it seems very harsh to me to interpret a separate rule that says "you should..." in the same manner. 

Indeed.   When I queried this in the past at a time I was struggling to post photo's from my phone, the mods made it clear that at the time, should meant it was recommended and good practise rather than a strict requirement, like for example a price in the ad. 

However it has been explained to me that the situation has changed and photos are now a requirement. 

Wazmeister

It does rattle me when people dont post pics. Its just laziness, and its piss easy to post as well.

Furhtermore, it helps you to sell the item ! Win win.

It should be compulsory, and im happy to chase em up for you in the classifieds.

UnclePsychosis

It also annoys me when people don't post pics, but if its going to be compulsory then the rules have to be modified accordingly.