Vintage tube scream shoot out

jamesoliver1234

https://youtu.be/WnEELxqsO5A

hoops

808 sounds best to me. 

crunchman

hoops said:

808 sounds best to me. 

Agree

TS9 definitely has a harsher top end in that clip. I know @ICBM maintains the two are identical, so it could just be a different taper on the tone pot.  I think there is a difference though.  I'm certain my TS9 sounded a bit warmer when I modded it to TS808 specs.

Funkfingers

In the interests of objectivity, the comparison should be double blind. 

In the real world, an advocate of any particular variant of the effect pedals being compared is likely to have his or her prejudices confirmed when the preferred model appears on screen.

Further, because different overdrive units may respond differently to player dynamics, there is a risk that the player changes dynamic input to get the desired result from each unit.

Thus, it should be possible to have a fun time with any iteration of the TS - if that happens to be your thing.

llew

808 for me

Sassafras

TS9 sounded a bit brighter.

ICBM

crunchman said:

TS9 definitely has a harsher top end in that clip. I know @ICBM maintains the two are identical, so it could just be a different taper on the tone pot.  I think there is a difference though.  I'm certain my TS9 sounded a bit warmer when I modded it to TS808 specs.

Some TS-9s have different chips, and that does make a difference to the top-end at higher gain settings.

There is no difference in the sound when the only difference in the circuit are the two output buffer resistors though - I fitted one with a switch to select the 808 values and it was impossible to tell any difference even when switching directly on the fly.

Different examples of even identical models can sound different though - I recently A/B'd two original 1983 TS-9s, both completely stock and apparently identical, and they sounded quite noticeably different - this is due to component tolerances and drift. So it's not at all unlikely that a particular 808 will sound different from a particular 9.

KDS

ICBM said:

crunchman said:

TS9 definitely has a harsher top end in that clip. I know @ICBM maintains the two are identical, so it could just be a different taper on the tone pot.  I think there is a difference though.  I'm certain my TS9 sounded a bit warmer when I modded it to TS808 specs.

Some TS-9s have different chips, and that does make a difference to the top-end at higher gain settings.

There is no difference in the sound when the only difference in the circuit are the two output buffer resistors though - I fitted one with a switch to select the 808 values and it was impossible to tell any difference even when switching directly on the fly.

Different examples of even identical models can sound different though - I recently A/B'd two original 1983 TS-9s, both completely stock and apparently identical, and they sounded quite noticeably different - this is due to component tolerances and drift. So it's not at all unlikely that a particular 808 will sound different from a particular 9.

Electrelectic capitors typically have +-20% that will change tone hugely, even though it is the same circuit

riffpowers

ICBM said:

crunchman said:

TS9 definitely has a harsher top end in that clip. I know @ICBM maintains the two are identical, so it could just be a different taper on the tone pot.  I think there is a difference though.  I'm certain my TS9 sounded a bit warmer when I modded it to TS808 specs.

Some TS-9s have different chips, and that does make a difference to the top-end at higher gain settings.

There is no difference in the sound when the only difference in the circuit are the two output buffer resistors though - I fitted one with a switch to select the 808 values and it was impossible to tell any difference even when switching directly on the fly.

Different examples of even identical models can sound different though - I recently A/B'd two original 1983 TS-9s, both completely stock and apparently identical, and they sounded quite noticeably different - this is due to component tolerances and drift. So it's not at all unlikely that a particular 808 will sound different from a particular 9.

I can believe that. i have an early 80’s ts9 and over never heard another one quite like it. And I’ve had loads of tube screamers over the years. 

Eski

808 for me by a good way.  The other two sounded pretty similar to my ears.

Fez

We forgive my pedantry but shouldn't this post be in the FX section