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Do people have preferences and/reasons for 21 over 22 frets on strats ?

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SquireJapanSquireJapan Frets: 735
edited December 2020 in Guitar
I get that 24 frets is a different aesthetic, and causes placement limitations with regard to the neck pickup - however I do wonder why people might choose 21 frets over 22?

Only thing I can think is if you’re doing a strict traditional style and you think 22 looks odd. 

I like I can get the high e from the 22nd if I want to ... and I feel like as it doesn’t harm anything (or does it) why not get a free fret?

It surprised me seeing most of the used necks and even custom builders will make 21 more than 22. 

Thoughts?
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 74497
    22.

    There's a solo in a song my band used to play which has the high D bent up to E. Nearly impossible on a 21-fret guitar - you have to pre-bend a semitone, then bend another full tone, which with an 11-gauge E and that hand position, is not going to happen.

    When I played it on a 21-fret guitar I did manage to fake it by playing it at the 10th fret and forcing the octave harmonic, which worked... mostly :).

    The 'Strat' I have now has a full-length 22-fret neck though.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 15430
    tFB Trader
    Not bothered - Hard to recall ever playing that last fret, so far up the fingerboard !!!!!
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  • EskiEski Frets: 35
    This one goes to 22!
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 10073
    On Fenders I think the overhang on 22 fret necks looks ungainly. Due to the aesthetics and being of the school that anything past the 15th is just showing off, I have a slight preference for 21 frets but it’s really not that big a deal.
    I play guitar because I enjoy it rather than because I’m any good at it
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  • Alex2678Alex2678 Frets: 1244
    I never really get that high, and never really feel like I’m missing another one, or three. I do prefer the traditional 21 fret look daft as it sounds 
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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 2473
    21 for me.

    (1) I never play that high up the neck;
    (2) That bloody lip makes it really hard to get the scratchplate off.
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  • There’s no money above the 15th fret...
    The Assumptions - UAE party band for all your rock & soul desires
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 25111
    edited December 2020

    I like 22.  Because it's one extra, and I think it looks good too, covers up that gap you sometimes get between the scratchplate and the end of the fretboard.  21 is fine, though.

    There are two things I wish I'd spec'd differently on my CS Strat - I should've had 22 frets, and I should've had this type of neck heel/plate:

    Regular neck on contoured heel body  Telecaster Guitar Forum

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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 30358
    Don't think I've ever played past the 15th fret let alone the 21st.
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 11014
    22 for me, simply because a lot of guitar stuff is in E and A and the high D bent up to E is very useful in those keys. Not that is deterred EVH ... I don't actually know but it sounds as though he bends up the C# to E on the end of the Beat is solo so I guess that was a 21 fret guitar ? 
    www.2020studios.co.uk 
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  • I get a nosebleed past 19, 21 is plenty
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 25006
    edited December 2020
    I recently appeared in a video, miming a part that I’d recorded on a 22 fret PRS, on a 21 fret Strat. I can honestly say, it’s the first time I ever cared about one extra fret - and only because when I relearned my improvised solo, I realised I’d used the 22nd fret. 

    As a basis of choosing a Strat, I don’t think the presence or absence of a 22nd fret would factor into my decision at all.
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  • frownfrown Frets: 32
    Much prefer 21 without fretboard overhang - don’t find I get up that high often enough to worry about it either.
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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 1409
    always 21. any song that *needs* that high D probably sucks.

    not like it's easy to get up there without arachnodactyly anyway
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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 5321
    I think only dogs and special equipment can hear anything higher than the 17th fret anyway...so 21 for me...plus 6 screw pivot and split post tuners :)
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  • I've only just counted my frets after reading this. Never thought about it before. 
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  • Between 3 Strats and a Tele I have 2 21 fret necks and 2 22 fret necks.  Aesthetically I prefer 21, but i happily live with both.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 74497
    bbill335 said:
    always 21. any song that *needs* that high D probably sucks.

    not like it's easy to get up there without arachnodactyly anyway
    I think it mattered for the song I played with it - that particular screamy high note really added a lot to the song. I have tiny hands too... and I can still do it on a Les Paul. You just have to be determined to reach it. 

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • FezFez Frets: 577
    I have both but never really worried about it.
    Don't touch that dial.
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 4972
    My original 1969 Strat is 21 frets. My 2009 US limited edition Strat, and 2004 US 50th deluxe Strat are 22 frets.  I do play at the dusty end and I really miss the 22nd fret on my '69, and also on my recently acquired Harley Benton Tele. There are some things that are just more awkward on 21 frets.  
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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