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HootsmonHootsmon Frets: 16315
A wonderin' if anybuddy used both methods for dirt live......OD pedals into a clean amp platform or boosts/light overdrives into an already cookin' overdriven amp?
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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1462
    edited December 2020
    I use edge of break up clean tone from the amp then for dirt drive the front end with an OD pedal or germanium treble booster. I like the amp to have good headroom though so I can kick the volume up if needed rather than getting overly compressed.
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  • HootsmonHootsmon Frets: 16315
    wots your TB?
    tae be or not tae be
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 74497
    Hootsmon said:
    A wonderin' if anybuddy used both methods for dirt live......OD pedals into a clean amp platform or boosts/light overdrives into an already cookin' overdriven amp?
    Yes.

    All my pedals and amp sounds are chosen so I can use them in any combination - even when I had three dirt pedals and a two-channel amp... although I never normally used all four at the same time, it was just too much - except for the comedy set-ending-howling-feedback sound :).

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  • RolandRoland Frets: 9129
    Yes, both. For already overdriven amps I use a TS-9 model because it tightens up the sound. For clean amps I use a model I’ve set up myself with a less nasal EQ than the TS-9.
    Tree recycler, and guitarist with  https://www.undercoversband.com/.
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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1462
    edited December 2020
    Hootsmon said:
    wots your TB?
    It’s a DAM Supa Rooster, which is essentially the same as Range Master but with a range control which thickens up the tone. I find the typical Range Master type circuit to be just a little too subtractive in the bass/mids. On the Supa Rooster you can still get the Range Master sound with the Range control fully counter clockwise if you want it, but so many more options too.
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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1462
    I also love a Proco Rat to kick the front end.
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 11014
    Depends what band ... for classic rock I will use a Marshall with delay in the loop, for other stuff a Fender HRD and some pedals. 
    I think for clarity on whole chords, as in contain a 3rd rather than just roots and fifths a pure valve amp distortion is nice. For leads, riffs and less complex chord voicing's pedals can do a great job
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 3001
    edited December 2020
    Single channel master volume amp set to the highest "rock" gain I want from it, then control how dirty it is with the guitar. Tubescreamer in front for heavier stuff to tighten it up/give more mid presence. Clean boost/EQ and a delay in the loop for solos. Nice and simple but still versatile.

    I've never really got on with channel switching amps, or pure clean amp tones. Exception being something like a JVM where I can have a crunch instead of clean, but generally I still find it more intuitive to use the guitar volume. 
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  • BarneyBarney Frets: 628
    I use the amp for all drives and a delay pedal in the loop 
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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 6939
    Things have changed since no gigs, I have been rehearsing though. Tend to kind of do what @TTBZ does but go a fair bit cleaner from the amp and use (at the moment) a @ThorpyFX Heavy Water and a nice germanium fuzz (Retroman Nü Fuzz with NKT275s) in front of that.

    So much variety is available from two pickups, two volume and tone controls a double boost and a decent fuzz. 
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  • robertyroberty Frets: 10932
    edited December 2020
    I use a cleanish amp with pedals. Just habit from years of kit share on the toilet circuit in London. I use an EQD Life clone and a Zander Foxxton Woods for dirt atm, set for contrasting sounds so one is bright and the other is fat
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  • HootsmonHootsmon Frets: 16315
    to the both methods guys with no FX loop....do you have two different delay level settings if you use amp's own OD sound and delay pedal in front?
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  • Drive from the amp head. Sometimes there's a tubescreamer in front of one of the amps, but it is not really needed.
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  • rze99rze99 Frets: 2505
    Classic valve amps. Attenuators. Guitar volume and some boosts. That is it. 
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  • slackerslacker Frets: 2330
    EL84 amp on the edge of breakup. Hit harder for gain and/or use a klon with gain at 9 o clock.. The pickup type makes a difference at these low levels of gain. 
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  • jeztone2jeztone2 Frets: 2161
    I started with a Marshall Guv’nor into a clean amp. Had an awful rack experiment in the mid 90’s. Then by 99 went back to pedals into a clean amp.

    I went 4CM in the 2000’s with a channel switching Marshall & an SD-1 for solos. But on the toilet circuit it became a nightmare changing gear over. So I abandoned it. 

    Nowadays I use pedals into a clean amp. I've found running my favourite JFET drive at 12vDC gives enough cabinet thump to make it sound amp-like. 
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 32394
    Three different drive pedals set to lowish gain but different EQs into a pair of clean HRDs. 

    The pedals are all stackable for different levels of drive and they're EQ'd differently so I can have anything from warm fatness to bright, scooped jangle. 

    My default pedal is a Drivemaster, I could get away with that for the whole gig if I had to. 
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  • I've always used 2-channel amps to switch between clean and dirty. I only add pedals if I'm doing a solo or need that clean boost on the dirty channel (most notably a TS9 in front of a 6505+)
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