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I'll try switching the Octaver, thanks.
My band, Red For Dissent
You can get some cool effects by putting phase/chorus/flange in the loop. I put dealy in the loop if I'm getting my dirt from the amp, otherwise (IMO) the dealys sound crappy. I know there's people who put delay before dirt (Drew_fx I think does this).
Some pedals (I'm thinking MXR) don't have the headroom to work in the loop, and clip and sound crap/weak.
Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21)
Actually I'd say I use delay pedals in the same way that people use drive pedals in front of a distorted amp. They use it to smack the front end hard, and to bring out the saturation of the amp. I do the same with a delay pedal, like in this song...
1:02 onwards... those lead lines during the break, followed by the rhythmical chord that echoes out over the chuggy stuff, then followed by the higher melody.... it's all two delays and a reverb into the front of my highest gain channel on the amp. You just cannot get that sound with having those effects in the effects loop.
5:39 onwards.... those melodies on top of the strummed chords and the synths... you cannot get those undulations and pulsings in the amount of gain when you've got delays after the dirt. It just doesn't sound the same. This particular song is one of my favourites, because the notes of the guitar cut through... and then the delay kinda fades in afterwards. And that's all done by using a certain amount of gain on the amp, and setting the mix amounts of each pedal so that it doesn't overwhelm the amp as much as some of our other songs.
There's things I've had, there's things I wanna have"
My band, Red For Dissent
Did you use a reverse delay or reverb to get the pulsing ones that seem to increase in gain?
Then I hit the amp with guitar > reverse delay > regular delay > reverb ... and the extra gain comes from the amount of notes I play. So when I play the single note bits it's cleaner than when I play the little runs/fills, because the extra notes cause the delays and reverb to hit the amp louder.
At the time I used my old Fryette Sig X. This was my board back in the day:
DL4 + DL8 + RV7.
The "bouncing around the stereo field" aspect of it comes from recording two passes and panning them hard left and hard right. For this I didn't resync the delays, so they're off by a certain amount, and it's not exactly a musical note value... something like 30ms roundabouts. So it kinda tumbles around and syncs up in a strange way...
Bookmarked!