John Mayer new album Sob Rock

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TINMAN82TINMAN82 Frets: 1339
Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.

Within hours of releasing the first few tracks off his upcoming 80s influenced album Sob Rock, the lead single Last Train Home has multiple full length guitar lesson and cover videos on YouTube. Probably more lessons than some classic songs from yesteryear.

Then you’ve got the Mary Spender reaction video off the back of the version she wrote/ extrapolated following a snippet of the song released a few months ago, which JM had responded too. 

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  • KylefKylef Frets: 872
    edited June 4
    I enjoy Mayer, not a massive fan but do enjoy his music and his playing is exceptional. I’ve listened to this song at least 20 times today, think it’s brilliant. I especially like the obvious Clapton influence on it, the song wouldn’t be out of place on Behind The Sun. 
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  • TINMAN82TINMAN82 Frets: 1339
    edited June 4
    Kylef said:
    I enjoy Mayer, not a massive fan but do enjoy his music and his playing is exceptional. I’ve listened to this song at least 20 times today, think it’s brilliant. I especially like the obvious Clapton influence on it, the song would be out of place on Behind The Sun. 
    Or “August”. Agree it’s a good song. In the video he even seems to reference the Clapton floating hand vibrato technique.
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  • DrCorneliusDrCornelius Frets: 3393
    Big , big Mayer fan here but that sounds like a Clapton B side from the mid 80s.  Love the guitar sound but think the song is weak 
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 7455
    I like it, love the 80s vibe, and yes can definitely hear Behind the Sun in it.
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 6890
    I agree, it's great to see a guitarist being so popular, but I can't fathom why. The song is very bland and instantly forgettable.

    Clearly not for me, but I'm glad he is inspiring others.
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 10254
    It's a small thing, but I find "Sob Rock" a very strange title.
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 6509
    edited June 4
    I've a lot of respect for him, as long as I don't really have to listen to him unfortunately - I actually think that could be a song I would really enjoy if it wasn't dressed in Toto Africa synths and the cheesy 80s production. Not my thing at all though with that style as the backing
    I want to be forgotten, and I don't want to be reminded
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  • TINMAN82TINMAN82 Frets: 1339
    Philly_Q said:
    It's a small thing, but I find "Sob Rock" a very strange title.
    Think that’s the point! The whole vibe is slightly tongue in cheek 80s and the video references Claptons video for Forever Man. Mabye some upbeat 80s soft rock is what we all need right now!
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 13114
    TINMAN82 said:
    Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.


    I can and I do.

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    I know he's sold a lot of records but I assume that must be in the US.

    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • TINMAN82TINMAN82 Frets: 1339
    TINMAN82 said:
    Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    You haven’t investigated very far then, or attended any of his gigs.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 23577
    edited June 4
    That video was quite dull and unremarkable.
    I mean the song, not just the video.
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  • TINMAN82TINMAN82 Frets: 1339
    edited June 4
    As I said, “whatever you think of him” it’s hard to deny his influence on guitar music. I’ve just stopped counting at 12 guitar lesson/tutorial videos uploaded to YouTube in the last 24hours for that new song, including Justin Sandercoe. That’s not even counting the comment videos, covers, piano lessons etc etc.

    Its not for everyone but if you dig deeper he’s a monster player. I guess you need to be social media and YouTube connected to fully appreciate this.

    Have a listen to Born and Raised or Paradise Valley for a more rootsy introduction to his stuff.
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  • CookiemonsterCookiemonster Frets: 400
    edited June 4
    I think this is dreadful.

    I like slow dancing, but what the hell is this, awful video as well

    The only way it could get worse. if had Phil Collins on drums.

    What is with this 80s crap soft rock thing 

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  • jhumberjhumber Frets: 151
    TINMAN82 said:
     In the video he even seems to reference the Clapton floating hand vibrato technique.
    Phew. I thought I’d gone too far into guitar-geekery by noticing that. Glad I’m not alone ;-)
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 10254
    Richard Marx plays the hits of Toto...

    This kind of '80s sound was OK at the time - we'd somehow forgotten the '70s and temporarily didn't know any better - but it's clearly dreadful in retrospect.  I don't know why anyone would want to go back and recreate it.

    But hey, if you like it, I'm not trying to persuade you not to.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 13114
    TINMAN82 said:
    TINMAN82 said:
    Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    You haven’t investigated very far then, or attended any of his gigs.

    No I haven't and that's the point.

    He's mentioned every ten minutes on guitar related YouTube channels but I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone who doesn't play guitar.

    I know many people who own bonamassa and Vai albums for example.

    I think there is this myth that he's a big star and he's just not.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • CookiemonsterCookiemonster Frets: 400
    TINMAN82 said:
    TINMAN82 said:
    Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    You haven’t investigated very far then, or attended any of his gigs.

    No I haven't and that's the point.

    He's mentioned every ten minutes on guitar related YouTube channels but I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone who doesn't play guitar.

    I know many people who own bonamassa and Vai albums for example.

    I think there is this myth that he's a big star and he's just not.
    16 million album sales apparently

    Instagram is Rocknrollismyescape -

    FOR SALE - Catalinbread Echorec, Sonic Blue classic player strat and a Digitech bad monkey

     

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  • FrizerFrizer Frets: 43
    I thought this track was weaker than the previous singles, hopefully there are some gems among the rest of the album tracks.
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 7455
    TINMAN82 said:
    TINMAN82 said:
    Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    You haven’t investigated very far then, or attended any of his gigs.

    No I haven't and that's the point.

    He's mentioned every ten minutes on guitar related YouTube channels but I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone who doesn't play guitar.

    I know many people who own bonamassa and Vai albums for example.

    I think there is this myth that he's a big star and he's just not.
    Bigger in the US for sure, but he still manages to sell out the O2 Arena every-time he visits the UK, that’s a lot of nerds! 
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 1891
    It feels a bit weird the way it just bolts Maren Morris on right at the end. Should have introduced her around the half way mark at least?
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 1891

    I think there is this myth that he's a big star and he's just not.
    He's an internationally successful mainstream recording artist and full on A-list celebrity. It's entirely possible that that has passed you and your social circle by, and why not indeed. But that doesn't make it a myth, any more than me having never seen an episode of Mrs Browns Boys means that doesn't exist.
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 10254
    Lewy said:
    It feels a bit weird the way it just bolts Maren Morris on right at the end. Should have introduced her around the half way mark at least?
    Is that who it is?  I was wondering why Emily Atack was in a John Mayer video.
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 1438
    edited June 4
    How. Can any man let alone a guitarist like this. The man has slept with every woman you have ever lusted after from a far. And pretty much all of them report  him as a brain spazszing lover. Played with all the living Greats who all say John has it in Spades Rocks up with a PRS guitar and converts hardcore Dead Heads to his way.. Rolls out chirpy tunes when needed. If their was a god in heaven. There would be a plague on his house just for being the over talented Sob that’s J Mayer Lol lol
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  • TINMAN82TINMAN82 Frets: 1339
    edited June 5
    dindude said:

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    You haven’t investigated very far then, or attended any of his gigs.

    No I haven't and that's the point.

    He's mentioned every ten minutes on guitar related YouTube channels but I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone who doesn't play guitar.

    I know many people who own bonamassa and Vai albums for example.

    I think there is this myth that he's a big star and he's just not.
    Bigger in the US for sure, but he still manages to sell out the O2 Arena every-time he visits the UK, that’s a lot of nerds! 
    He does. And the row I was seated in was full of swooning 20 something girls, definitely not guitar nerds! 

    TINMAN82 said:
    Whatever you think of JM you can’t deny his massive positive influence on current guitar music. I happen to think he’s one of the most talented guitarist songwriters on the scene, last gig I saw pre COVID too.


    I can and I do.

    I can honestly say I've never heard him mentioned outside of nerdy blues obsessed guitarists.

    I know he's sold a lot of records but I assume that must be in the US.

    No one really “sells a lot of records” anymore. There are other metrics for music popularity nowadays.

    He’s not someone I’d expect to appeal to most of the clientele here, just a good example of mainstream popular guitar based music happening now, rather than decades ago.
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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 4035
    edited June 4
    Wonder if that pink Silver Sky will be a limited edition. That’d be a clown show. 
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 13114
    Just checking on the official chart company he hasn't had a single track in the UK top 40 except a guest appearance with fallout boy.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 4035
    Just checking on the official chart company he hasn't had a single track in the UK top 40 except a guest appearance with fallout boy.
    I’m no fan of Mayer but I think that says more about the narrow scope of the charts than the popularity/success of the guy.
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 1891
    Just checking on the official chart company he hasn't had a single track in the UK top 40 except a guest appearance with fallout boy.
    Yep, you can't be considered a star if you only have success in the US and fail to break the UK lol ;)

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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 22380
    Greg Philingaines on keys - who played with EC in the 80s and EC’s chorused 80s Strat sound. Highly derivative - but nice enough. 

    I’m glad there’s a young(er) lead player out there - but I wouldn’t pay money to listen to him. He just doesn’t have that ‘hairs on the back of my arms’ thing for me.
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  • BoromedicBoromedic Frets: 2110
    edited June 4
    I love it me like, and I want a pink Silver Sky too. Great song, excellent pastiche vid and some tasty playing, what's not to like.

    .....I don't care if you're big in the city, nothing at all is what that means.


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