Nitro refinish not responding to relicing attempts

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Getting a guitar refinished at the moment. 

Sprayed mid-December, UV treated to yellow the clear coat. 

Isn’t responding to attempted relicing though - has had time in and out of the freezer, has been been blasted with heat gun and air duster - no joy.

Anyone ever encountered anything like this before?

Cheers

ICBM

lol

Manufacturers had been trying to achieve that for decades until about twenty years ago.

davros

Have you given it some knocks and dents? Checking likes to have somewhere to start.

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davros said:

Have you given it some knocks and dents? Checking likes to have somewhere to start.

Not sure, I would have thought so, but I’ll check with the person doing it

Zoolooter

Depends on the nitro brand and mix, I’d also leave it for another 2/3 months for it to cure/harden a bit more.

WezV

yeah, its not always instant with some brands of nitro. 

If its not going with an upside-down air can then its likely not ready as that method is pretty hard on the lacquer.   The freezer method is a bit gentler, but produces better results when it does finally happen

Alternatively, it is checking, you just can't see it yet. This will become more apparent as it continues to evaporate.

prowla

The guitar is showing good common-sense. :-)

Danielsguitars

It'll be the nitro brand imo, you will need to get some dirt in the cracks though straight after it checks 

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We’re going to leave it for a few months, let it dry out some and then go again. Thanks for all the replies

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Danielsguitars said:

It'll be the nitro brand imo, you will need to get some dirt in the cracks though straight after it checks 

What would be your dirt of choice? 

BillDL

Cover with tinfoil and cook it from frozen on a baking tray in the middle of a pre-heated at 180 degrees (170 for fan assisted), allowing 3 hours for every kg, or 2.5 hours for a semi-acoustic or "thinline".  Turn regularly and baste every 30 minutes, then remove the tinfoil for the last 30 minutes to give it some colour and crispness

victorludorum

Have you tried playing it? ;-)

poopot

What brand of lacquer is it?

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poopot said:

What brand of lacquer is it?

Not sure. Anyway, I’m getting it back in a few days, going to leave it a couple of months and try again with the relicing

Zoolooter

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Danielsguitars said:

It'll be the nitro brand imo, you will need to get some dirt in the cracks though straight after it checks 

What would be your dirt of choice? 

Melted dark brown shoe polish. Needs to be done straight away after freezing because the cracks in the lacquer close up after a few minuets. 

andy_k

Needs Pics.

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andy_k said:

Needs Pics.

Will do, when I get a chance 

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Zoolooter said:

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Danielsguitars said:

It'll be the nitro brand imo, you will need to get some dirt in the cracks though straight after it checks 

What would be your dirt of choice? 

Melted dark brown shoe polish. Needs to be done straight away after freezing because the cracks in the lacquer close up after a few minuets. 

Any suggestions regarding darkening the wood? The maple neck has some natural wear which is properly black/brown whereas the relic wear on the ash body is very pale/clean.

Jez6345789

As said it is probably the lacquer, the one I bought here in Spain Nitrolak is pretty resilient takes at least 4-6 overnights in the freezer before it starts to give itself up, and as said with these more modern plasticizer style lacquers it takes a bit more work Again not an expert but shoe polish will show up the cracks more.

Kittyfrisk

Give it a gentle caress with one of these, just to open up the surface a tad?