Classical Musicians

Clarky

I've got some amazing orchestral and choral instruments [AU's] cos I'm a member of a team that writes movie trailer music..

they are all fkn expensive... and I need more.. my next brass AU will be about $700, and eventually I'll be getting LASS [strings] which costs $1.2 squillion

Axe_meister

Clarky said:

I've got some amazing orchestral and choral instruments [AU's] cos I'm a member of a team that writes movie trailer music..

they are all fkn expensive... and I need more.. my next brass AU will be about $700, and eventually I'll be getting LASS [strings] which costs $1.2 squillion

This is my daughters ambition to become a film score writer. 

littlegreenman

Clarky said:

I've got some amazing orchestral and choral instruments [AU's] cos I'm a member of a team that writes movie trailer music..

they are all fkn expensive... and I need more.. my next brass AU will be about $700, and eventually I'll be getting LASS [strings] which costs $1.2 squillion

E-mails from EastWest are always dangerous for my bank balance!

Clarky

I love that EastWest stuff... I don't have any of their AU's just yet.. but will be buying some of them next year..

Clarky

Axe_meister said:

Clarky said:

I've got some amazing orchestral and choral instruments [AU's] cos I'm a member of a team that writes movie trailer music..

they are all fkn expensive... and I need more.. my next brass AU will be about $700, and eventually I'll be getting LASS [strings] which costs $1.2 squillion

This is my daughters ambition to become a film score writer. 

writing film scores and trailers is a hugely different job..

I didn't realise quite how different until I got involved in trailer writing..

you could say that it's the difference between writing a single vs writing a huge prog rock saga..

the trailer have to be "wham bam", 2 mins of spectacular in your face, eye gouge, nose bleed sort of thing.. the prob here is that you have very little time to set the scene.. no time to spin out the theme etc... like single writting, it's actually remarkably difficult and an artform in it's own right..

movie scores are a whole different deal.. you have huge slabs of time to work with.. you have time to gradually build the theme / vibe.. the thing here is being able to spin it out so that the climax occurs at the right time [by not getting too big too soon].. tricks like "motiffic development" work well here.. essentially making a long piece retain it's interest whilst trying to stay on theme without it getting boring.. and of course.. a totally different but equally demanding art form..

I would suggest that not only does she get good with "the notes" / scoring etc... that to a degree, she also gets good with the production side of thnigs too.. cos if the production sucks, you ain't gonna get a look in.. the bar is set pretty fkn high..

also.... these days, both film and trailer music are often "hybrid orchestral".. this means getting into contemporary [and ethnic] instruments too.. my last trailer submission was full orchestra, male and female choir, piano, several synth parts, some serious percuion, drums [as in a heavy metal drum kit], 7-string guitars, 5-string bass guitar, much sound-design stuff.. sort of epic-hybrib-orchestral-death-metal...

I absolutely adore working on the movie stuff... but it's mega fkn frustrating too...

Axe_meister

@Clarky

do you have any recommendations as to which Uni's are best on the composing side of things? She's just doing GCSEs right now but only 2 1/2 years to go so we need to plan ahead.

She's already grade 8 Violin, Grade 5 flue and Grade 5 Piano with grade 5 theory.

Skipped

I don't think it is GAS in the way that I understand the GAS we discuss on this forum. It seems to me that the musician that seeks out an old and very expensive violin would do so even if no one ever asked them about their violin or asked to look at the label. They are spending the cash because they have played similar violins and have figured out exactly what they want (Old Wood).

mike_l

PolarityMan said:

who cares how many oboes they ahve..the real question is how come they never have *any* distortion pedals.....fucking weirdos.

What not even an SD-1 or Bad Monkey? perverts.

Clarky

Axe_meister said:

@Clarky

do you have any recommendations as to which Uni's are best on the composing side of things? She's just doing GCSEs right now but only 2 1/2 years to go so we need to plan ahead.

She's already grade 8 Violin, Grade 5 flue and Grade 5 Piano with grade 5 theory.

to be honest, I don't know of any Uni's that specialise in film scoring. Wouldn't hurt to look around though.

if you can't find a movie centric degree, I'd suggest a degree in composition..

that said.... she'll need to get a reasonable degree of knowhow in the following:

- production [mixing / sound design etc]

- contemporary music [it ain't all orchestral.. far from it]

also... keep options open.. there's more to this than just movies...

TV music, TV and movie trailers, advertising.. and another biggie is gaming music..

at first it seems kinda massive and daunting.. but like anything else, you chip away at the various bits and pieces over time.. like being a guitar player.. it's not all scales and songs.. there's other stuff.. the gear, setups, dialing in different tones for different styles, fx, and all the various styles of music you may want to play [and if you're a pro, need to play]..

if you want to chat with me more about all this without overly hijacking this thread, feel free to bung me a PM and we can chat on the phone with real actual words and stuff..

Axe_meister

All cool at the moment. She also plays bass in Goth band, And knows the difference between a shit hired back line and my Mesa Rig 'o)

 

Clarky

awesome… 

if ever you want to chat about the movie stuff just shout.. the offer is always open to chat and stuff..

viz

stickyfiddle said:

When I was learning clarinet and sax I had one of each. I upgraded the sax eventually, but sold the old one when I did.

My teacher was the same - one clarinet, two saxes (one alto, one tenor), an oboe and a couple of flutes. 

The difference is that all wind instruments of a type look and sound broadly the same. A £5000 sax is undoubtedly nicer than a £200 one, but it's not night and day . With wind stuff the difference is like getting an Squier Affinity, then a Fender USA Strat then a CS one. All trying to be basically the same thing at different prices

With guitars most non-musicians would be able to tell you that a Gibson Les Paul, Fender Strat and Gretsch 6120 all sound different if played one after the other in isolation. And they all have different pros/cons in terms of playability, not to mention looking very different too. But with the squier/USA Std/Custom Shop thing it's much harder to the untrained eye and ear.

gave you a wow for that (so you could get 1000 frets).

viz

Aargh double post