Dumb question about a really common chord

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JonathangusJonathangus Frets: 4538
What do you actually call this?  I'm talking about the really common thing where you play a simple two-note root-and-fifth power chord, then drop the lower note by a semitone.  One Vision is the obvious example, but it crops up all over the place.  With only two notes, it's hard to define the root.

So something like: 4 7 x x x x - would you call that A/G#, or G#m6?  Or something else?
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  • digitalkettledigitalkettle Frets: 3260
    With two notes (a diad), there's not enough context...BUT...what I think you're going for here is that 4-7-x-x-x-x to 5-7-x-x-x-x movement.

    4-7-x-x-x-x = E/G# = 1st inversion of E, i.e. the 3rd is in the bass
    5-7-x-x-x-x = A5

    So bass motion aside, it's a V I progression.
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  • bloodandtearsbloodandtears Frets: 1656
    edited May 2023
    maj7 chord..  (inverted and missing the root note in the example you've shown)

    imagine 576XXX

    then replace the lowest root note with the maj7 octave below.
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  • vizviz Frets: 10699
    Spot on, and if you wanted to fatten it out, you'd be playing a C-shaped barre chord on that 4th fret - ie 476454. As @digitalkettle ;says, E in 1st inversion, or E/G#.
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  • digitalkettledigitalkettle Frets: 3260
    viz said:
    Spot on, and if you wanted to fatten it out, you'd be playing a C-shaped barre chord on that 4th fret - ie 476454. As @digitalkettle ;says, E in 1st inversion, or E/G#.
    I was just going to go on about fattening ;)

    I always noodled around on the 'One Vision' thing with an octave on top...and starting with a D5 chord:
    x-5-7-7-x-x
    x-4-7-6-x-x

    And similar to @viz 's C-shape, for E/G# I like 4-x-2-4-5-x
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  • JonathangusJonathangus Frets: 4538
    Lovely, thanks!  Yes, makes perfect sense when you try that full chord as @viz suggests.
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  • TanninTannin Frets: 5463
    Well technically it is not a chord. Purists say that a chord is any combination of three or more notes. With only two, it's just a dyad.

    But I think that view is being unnecessarily technical and unhelpful. So to answer we need a little more information, specifically we need the context. Where is it coming from and/or where is it going to?

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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 9684
    edited May 2023
    A diad on its own doesn’t contain enough information to let the listener know what the underlying three (or more) note chord is. Context is everything.

    Example - The Fabulous Thunderbirds song ‘My Babe’ starts with a double stop containing a D and an F. Seeing those two notes written down you’d be forgiven for thinking it might be a Dm or possibly a Bb. Hear it in context though and it’s immediately obvious that it’s a G7 even though the root and third are missing.

    In the OP’s example - because the context is explained it’s fairly obvious that the second chord (the one with the bass note dropped by a semitone) will be a maj7. Without context it wouldn’t be obvious at all.
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