Laney Iron heart...again?

Jetfire

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2AEicwMm3i/?igsh=MW1ndTUzamp4azRnbw==

So looks like Laney are re-releasing the Iron heart range with heads and the combo as well as a plugin. Interesting.... As there are a few upgrades to the "gain and pre boost" technology. 

I loved my Laney IRT so I'd be interested to try these again...

StefB

All the details are now on the website too, plus the LFR-412, which is 42kg.

Web page says the new Ironhearts are made in the UK factory so I'm intrigued to see what price point they'll be put out at - https://www.laney.co.uk/amps/guitar/ironheart

Jetfire

$1300 for the combo in Sweetwater apparently 

Grumpyrocker

I used to own an IRT60 which I foolishly sold.

I've got the little Iron heart Dual Too head now and it's fantastic.

But I must admit I can't help being tempted with a Laney UK built Iron heart. Must resist. 

Fortheloveofguitar

Pointless paying $1499 for one of these or the £ equivalent. 

Just this week sold my original Iron heart 60 head for £275. Why on earth would you buy a new one when the original can be had for £275-350 all day long. 

Jetfire

Because there is a new gain circuit and preboost. So I'd like to hear them A/B-ed

Fortheloveofguitar

Jetfire said:

Because there is a new gain circuit and preboost. So I'd like to hear them A/B-ed

‘New enhanced boost circuitry on the UK built BCC-IRONHEARTS allows you to drive the amp hard without any of the muddiness and uncontrollable low end associated with lesser amps’

The gain circuits remain the same. The only new thing is the newly ‘Enhanced boost circuitry’ and that was never an issue on the first model in the first place. Marketing talk as normal. Save your money and get an old one.  

Jetfire

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2AEicwMm3i/?igsh=MW1ndTUzamp4azRnbw==

Lee says gain circuits.are different *shrug*

Babones

Hmm, the IRF Dualtop looks interesting. You don't get many companies making traditional looking small form SS heads (i.e. not micro or full size). Most seem to be put into pedal format which i'm not a fan of, but can tolerate. Not a fan of amps with lights inside them though. I kind of wish that Peavey would have made Bandit heads like this.

Fortheloveofguitar

Jetfire said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2AEicwMm3i/?igsh=MW1ndTUzamp4azRnbw==

Lee says gain circuits.are different *shrug*

Will see what comes out but the website doesn’t say anything about new gain circuits only the boost comment. 

snowblind

FWIW I'm warming to the old Laney VC30 I picked up recently. The digital reverb in it is a bit meh but nothing that can't be fixed with a good pedal. Cheap as chips and you can do wonders with a change of speaker.

I was going to move it on but it has become the travelling amp for the moment and I'm liking it more the more I use it. I'd definitely recommend taking a look at one of these things if there's one in your neighbourhood.

Enthonedoath

Will this model make it a bit more like the ti100 then?

Jetfire

Enthonedoath said:

Will this model make it a bit more like the ti100 then?

Not sure I understand the question?

Adey

Babones said:

Hmm, the IRF Dualtop looks interesting. You don't get many companies making traditional looking small form SS heads (i.e. not micro or full size). Most seem to be put into pedal format which i'm not a fan of, but can tolerate. Not a fan of amps with lights inside them though. I kind of wish that Peavey would have made Bandit heads like this.

I really liked my IRT, especially the red light in it! It looked fantastic!

Stevepage

Babones said:

Hmm, the IRF Dualtop looks interesting. You don't get many companies making traditional looking small form SS heads (i.e. not micro or full size). Most seem to be put into pedal format which i'm not a fan of, but can tolerate. Not a fan of amps with lights inside them though. I kind of wish that Peavey would have made Bandit heads like this.

But that’s where the tone is!

Jetfire

https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Laney-Black-Country-Customs-Ironheart-30w-Combo/66J6

https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Laney-Black-Country-Customs-Ironheart-60w-Head/66JZ

Interesting prices. I prob would pick up the combo thou for £300ish sh.

Stevepage

A grand? No thanks. Not when I can get one second hand for £300ish. People would buy these because they used to be a great amp for a great price. But for that money you’re competing with EVH5150III territory, personally I feel the EVH is a better amp.

Fortheloveofguitar

Stevepage said:

A grand? No thanks. Not when I can get one second hand for £300ish. People would buy these because they used to be a great amp for a great price. But for that money you’re competing with EVH5150III territory, personally I feel the EVH is a better amp.

Exactly what I said earlier on in the thread. 

It’s all marketing BS this time around. 

Also they’re saying the boost circuit is improved as if there was an issue with the old one not being tight enough. Believe me it was tight 

Sold mine for £275 so why on earth would you pay £1000 for one. 

Jetfire

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Stevepage said:

A grand? No thanks. Not when I can get one second hand for £300ish. People would buy these because they used to be a great amp for a great price. But for that money you’re competing with EVH5150III territory, personally I feel the EVH is a better amp.

Exactly what I said earlier on in the thread. 

It’s all marketing BS this time around. 

Also they’re saying the boost circuit is improved as if there was an issue with the old one not being tight enough. Believe me it was tight 

Sold mine for £275 so why on earth would you pay £1000 for one. 

Can't wait for someone to A/B them and find no difference