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Nationalism and patriotism when it suits eh.
To well up with pseudo self induced tears when you don't know any of them is the biggest insult ever I reckon.
It should stay with the military, with friends and family.
What is empathy and humanity? Narcissist emotions for the emotionally self centred.
Empathy and humanity is being helpful everyday in everyway and always considering others.
You can't have empathy for people that are no longer here.
@sambostar Here's a thought: there's a delicious paradox that the very fact you can moan about this on a forum publically is testimony to the actions of the people you refuse to respect. So yes, you can empathise
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What's a Frenchman? Someone from Japan. What's a circle? A shape with four sides. Both equally random statements. Someone can fake empathy and humanity maybe, but to actually feel them and act on them is the opposite to being emotionally self centred. If feeling empathy and being self-centred were the same thing then Aspergers sufferers would find life and negotiating society a lot easier.
No that's humanity - arguably. Empathy and humanity are not the same thing. You could say that a lot of times empathy is a motivator for acts of humanity but not always. There are plenty of brilliant surgeons who are clearly psychopathic. Despite helping people everyday you could argue that their lack of empathy is part of their brilliance to not become distracted by emotional attachment when working. Equally there are plenty of people who do humanitarian work not because they are motivated by empathy, but because their faith or way of life compels them to.
If non involvement or distance denies people the right to act as empathy is solely a product of self-centred emotional and narcissism then we would fall into not the what you say is humanity, but a dog eat dog culture where those that have keep and those who don't die. As I have said before other than charitable acts and campaigns, race equality, women's rights. gay rights etc. are not solely propelled by those who have something to gain but because of the empathy of others leading to support for their rights to not be treated differently (or treated with humanity). If empathy was a narcissistic reactions we would do everything we could to solely better our own situation.
I think you may be confusing sympathy and empathy. Of course you can empathise with anyone's situation alive or dead (if you have the ability), there are no time factors on it. It is possibly the most important factor in causing humanity to progress and societies and civilisations to grow.
In this particular case you are probably missing the main point that large amount of money raised goes into supporting those who are actually still alive.
I sense an argument brewing
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There is no such thing as society.
I just feel that war should be fought between leaders, corporations and bankers, not blokes on £300 a week.
The poppy doesn't glamorize it, it is a symbol of solidarity I guess, but many jump on board for all the wrong reasons.
Yes, we have to remember the sacrifice, so it doesn't happen again, but it will.
As for most people in society being empathetic...give me a break. Most people call themselves empathetic but reality is a long way away from their head.
The problem with war and peace is that you get caught up in the solidarity for your fellow man and you all get blown to pieces. The horrors should be forgotten. And then yous all righteous whilst playing your shot 'em up war games on the PC.
What next RHC, you gonna send me the white feather?
Maybe we should get a public health warning on every political party campaign, like on the back of a pack of fags, photos of the reality they cause.
You see?
OK, good anyway. Money going to people who need it. Prefer Help for Heroes and I still think the politicians and Monarchy jump on board the poppy appeal and it does smack of nationalism and an old England, where people knew their place. If it was me, In wouldn't want sympathy or empathy or remembrance, I would want some cash so I could do my best to get rehabilitated as the army doesn't do anywhere near enough. So cash is a good thing. People in wheelchairs don't need sympathy, they need cash. I couldn't even begin to sympathese with the trauma they have been through anyway.
Even the title 'Blood Swept land and seas of red' is romantic...FFS.