Shure SM57 best bet for amplifying my amp live?

JonHosker

About to buy a new Shure SM57, before I do, any advice on that for alternatives to mic up my amp into a church PA?
ta Jon

Jonathangus

https://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/269439/sm57-like-new-pouch-clip-boxed-with-paperwork-60

Modulus_Amps

Ox Box, Suhr IR load box, Boss Expander, Two notes Little IR boxy thing.

All much more expensive but you will have more control of the sound going to the board and it won't be subject to how the mic is placed on  weekly basis. You could have it set up for multiple mics etc

How big is your Church? Do you actually get to turn your amp up a bit? 

JonHosker

Medium church size, can’t turn amp up loads but want to use my valve amps with a mic in front. Don’t need silent stage option.
ta Jon

keir

Could try a sennheiser E609 / 906, they can be draped over the front of the amp and (I believe) are a little less picky with placement 

shaunm

JonHosker said:

Medium church size, can’t turn amp up loads but want to use my valve amps with a mic in front. Don’t need silent stage option.
ta Jon

An SM57 is more than fine, it will work perfectly. A torpedo Captor X will give you the option of taking your sound directly to the desk whilst still having your onstage sound.

Danny1969

keir said:

Could try a sennheiser E609 / 906, they can be draped over the front of the amp and (I believe) are a little less picky with placement 

They are more ideal for mic'ing up amps in quieter conditions. In every mic used in a live environment you have the wanted source (the amp in this case) and the unwanted spill from the drums and other instruments. The 906 / 609 picks up less spill 

springhead

Stick one of these in the back of your amp with Velcro. 

https://www.thomann.de/gb/hugheskettner_redbox_5.htm?glp=1&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADuDMCVjTAO3NYifICtO1vfevt5_4&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9qLU4NjChwMVnZNQBh2T4QyvEAQYASABEgLPjfD_BwE

RocknRollDave

Behringer B 906 Dynamic Microphone for Instrument and Vocal Applications https://amzn.eu/d/0ibvnlRp

JonHosker

Will go for the E906 - thanks 
Jon

mrkb

Jonathangus said:

https://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/269439/sm57-like-new-pouch-clip-boxed-with-paperwork-60

I hope not as I paid for that a few hours ago.

Modulus_Amps

I used to play in a similar setting, ranging from 100 people to 300 people. Back then the best solution was a palmer PDI-01

I have since had and stripped apart a Palmer PDI-003 Joe Bonamassa model and it works great with more flexibility. Testing it against the Friedman simulated DI out circuit, the whole office thought the Palmer was better.

Both those items go between the amp and speaker and cost more or less the same as a mic and is less susceptible to damage in the gig bag.

JonHosker

Thanks Modulus.
Prefer a mic. option to try as planning to use a couple of different amps. Hope this works out.
Will look at the Palmer and RedBox option too.
jon

Modulus_Amps

Speak to your Church leadership too, they may be willing to buy it for you. They normally have a budget for this sort of thing.

JonHosker

Thanks 
Good advice 
jon

Al_Nico

Yes. Shure SM57 is an excellent choice. They have a pleasing, expected sound response and last forever. I use them for almost everything.

vasselmeyer

I got a Palmer PDI09 (which is now discontinued) which sits between the amp and the speaker and takes a feed to the desk with an XLR. You can find them for very little money on auction sites and they are absolutely worth a punt. If you have a solid state amp, you don't even need a speaker load on it and I've used it for silent stage gigs.

Wazmeister

keir said:

Could try a sennheiser E609 / 906, they can be draped over the front of the amp and (I believe) are a little less picky with placement 

Ive used many different types at church and live. The SM57 is more than good enough, but my best results was with the Sennheiser listed above

markr76

I have a sennheiser E906 for my cab. The other guitarist in my band uses a sm57. I prefer the E906, as stated above it has a lower profile to the amp. I’ve tried both too and they are both very good. But I thought the E906 gave a better representation of my amp’s true sound through the PA. The sm57 sound a bit brighter to my ears. Not much in it though. But the E906 was actually designed with guitar speakers in mind. 

markr76

markr76 said:

I have a sennheiser E906 for my cab. The other guitarist in my band uses a sm57. I prefer the E906, as stated above it has a lower profile to the amp. I’ve tried both too and they are both very good. But I thought the E906 gave a better representation of my amp’s true sound through the PA. The sm57 sound a bit brighter to my ears. Not much in it though. But the E906 was actually designed with guitar speakers in mind. 

I might add though. We’ve both moved to two notes ir boxes. As Modulus mentions above. We get a bit more flexibility this way. We can attenuate our cabs on stage too and get less feedback problems with the PA.

Danny1969

The 906 is a better bet than any speaker sim with DI box as it picks up very little spill, sounds great but unlike the speaker sim / DI box you can also use it on many other things too. We used them on snare, some brass, roto toms, rims .. basically anywhere you need to capture the source but reject everything else  around it as much as possible. 

For this reason IMHO it shines at home recording and small stage work. The 57 is also a great mic and sounds fantastic if placed right but whenever buying a mic for live use always consider the application first and what kind of pickup pattern will serve best. Then think about sound but to be honest there's very little difference on close mic'ed guitar as it's all mid range. Sure in the studio you can add in a ribbon or some other lovely mic and get an even better sound. I always used a close mic and 2 room mics in the studio when tracking guitar on it's own but live all you are concerned about is does it do a good job as a close mic.