Seated stadiums are not like the terraces were.

Deijavoo

Hilarious: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11284863/Sociology-students-trip-to-observe-working-class-culture-at-Millwall-FC.html

chillidoggy

Sociology.

Col_Decker

Are the History students going to Anfield I wonder?

mike_l

That's the first time I've seen "Culture" and "Millwall" in the same sentence*......

 

Is AS-level Sociology a pre-cursor to being a sociopath?

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sorry @Clarky

Clarky

awesome… maybe the fans should study the students… with a stick.. lmao

TTony

I went to my first ever football match when I was about 10.  Me and a load of mates.

We were "hard" and there was a load of us, so we'd be fine.

it was at the Old Den (early 70s).  Fulham won 3-1.

i still remember it well.  

mike_l

How was the hospital food back then Tony?

TTony

mike_l said:

How was the hospital food back then Tony?

If we hadn't made ourselves very *very* small and hidden behind the roof supports, I'd have found out.  I remember large groups of very large and angry looking men charging from one side of the stand to the other, and then back again, and then back again (repeat for about 90 minutes).

It was a good time at the time.

No, you're right, the Old Den was never a good idea.

crunchman

TTony said:

No, you're right, the Old Den was never a good idea.

The new stadium is bad enough.  I went there once in the early 90s.  There was a riot after the match, burnt out cars in the car park of the Surrey Quays shopping centre and everything.  It was an important match, and the result didn't go Millwall's way, but the reaction was scary.  I'm just glad that I didn't wear my Forest shirt to that match.

chillidoggy

Is there any other sport where fighting appears to be the fans main aim? I can't think of any offhand.

RobDavies

chillidoggy;443069" said:

Is there any other sport where fighting appears to be the fans main aim? I can't think of any offhand.

All Muslims are suicide bombers, too.

RobDavies

The New Den is probably the safest ground in the country these days. Unless you actively seek them out, you don't see a home fan as the police have got it so under control.

Actually, we went drinking around London Bridge before and after the game and bumped into some proper old school 'Wall fans and they were as good as gold - and that was after a defeat.

If you go looking to cause problems then you'll find plenty of trouble but a regular fan will not get grief these days.

bingefeller

I'm not a football fan, plus I'm Northern Irish, so I don't really get this, but was Millwall a club with loads of skinhead fans in the 80s and 90s or something like that?

holnrew

I saw Yeovil play Millwall, I heard a fan say "lets get out of this shithole and back to Landan"

If a Millwall fan says somewhere is a shithole it must be bad.

TTony

bingefeller said:

I'm not a football fan, plus I'm Northern Irish, so I don't really get this, but was Millwall a club with loads of skinhead fans in the 80s and 90s or something like that?

That would be a little like someone saying "Weren't there a couple of riots over there in the 80s and 90s?".

Millwall's fans weren't necessarily skinheads.  But they were (70s, 80s, 90s) probably the most feared of all the football-club associated hordes of complete nutters.

bingefeller

TTony said:

bingefeller said:

I'm not a football fan, plus I'm Northern Irish, so I don't really get this, but was Millwall a club with loads of skinhead fans in the 80s and 90s or something like that?

That would be a little like someone saying "Weren't there a couple of riots over there in the 80s and 90s?".

Millwall's fans weren't necessarily skinheads.  But they were (70s, 80s, 90s) probably the most feared of all the football-club associated hordes of complete nutters.

lol I see.  

RobDavies

TTony;443307" said:

bingefeller said:

I'm not a football fan, plus I'm Northern Irish, so I don't really get this, but was Millwall a club with loads of skinhead fans in the 80s and 90s or something like that?





That would be a little like someone saying "Weren't there a couple of riots over there in the 80s and 90s?".

Millwall's fans weren't necessarily skinheads.  But they were (70s, 80s, 90s) probably the most feared of all the football-club associated hordes of complete nutters.

It goes back even further than that - it was in 1964 when millwall fans threw a live grenade at Brentford keeper, Chic Brodie.

mike_l

And the trouble between West ham and Millwall goes back way further than that Rob........

Neil

Millwall were certainly a load of Herberts down the old Den in Cold Blow Lane.

Fortunately West Ham (also top Herberts) rarely played them, usually being in a different division.

I remember not that many years ago when Millwall turned over the Sky sports van. 

mike_l

West Ham/Millwall goes back to the days of the London Docklands,

Millwall went south of the river, and took a load of work from their previous neighbours in the eastend.

Emp_Fab

RobDavies said:

It goes back even further than that - it was in 1964 when millwall fans threw a live grenade at Brentford keeper, Chic Brodie.

I couldn't believe I'd never heard about that so I just googled it.  Sorry Rob but it was a replica - not a real grenade.