Delay with loop?

ThePrettyDamned

I'm after one so I can put a pedal in the loop, probably for an octave.

Definite features I'd want: clean, or clean ish repeats (I have a juansolo delay for the dirtier stuff), a second of delay time on tap minimum. Tap tempo would be good, and not mechanical true bypass. Reliability is important.

The memory boy ticks some boxes, but it's ehx so the jacks and the switch will probably fail at some point.

Actually, if it was a digidelay or dd3 but with a loop, that would basically be good, I'm not desperate for tap tempo. Affordable is good, but I don't know if these features appear in affordable...

RaymondLin

Duncan Seymour Vapor trail, JHS Panther Cub

randomhandclaps

The Skreddy echo has a loop too.

You can mod just about any delay fairly simply to include a loop, the issue is enclosure space for extra jacks. 

ThePrettyDamned

RaymondLin;466365" said:

Duncan Seymour Vapor trail, JHS Panther Cub

Already got a dirty delay, so neither are useful to me.

Both say true bypass with no mention of switching scheme, so the chances are it's a shitty mechanical switch.

ThePrettyDamned

randomhandclaps;466366" said:

The Skreddy echo has a loop too.You can mod just about any delay fairly simply to include a loop, the issue is enclosure space for extra jacks. 

Again, it's a dirty sounding delay - I'm after clean repeats I can modulate with the loop really.

ThePrettyDamned

Although modding an existing one would be neat @randomhandclaps. The dd3 has analogue dry through (which is cool) and clean repeats so if this is easily modded to have a loop that would be ace.

randomhandclaps

It can be done on the DD-3 without any extra holes needed.  You remove the Direct out jack and swap it for a stereo jack (one channel act as send and the other as return).  You need a 'Y' stereo to two mono jacks lead to connect it to your chosen pedal.  The stereo jack is then cut into the circuit - where depend on which version you have.

EricTheWeary

S Duncan Deja Vu. I think it ticks all the boxes, not exactly cheap though.

ThePrettyDamned

EricTheWeary;466404" said:

S Duncan Deja Vu. I think it ticks all the boxes, not exactly cheap though.

I love the sound of this pedal, but again, I think the switches are 3pdt. Could be wrong, but I've had too many go wrong for me to be arsed to use them. There are better, more reliable options available to any builder.

I know I'm being difficult with regards to this, but seriously, I've had so many fail and I've only really been using pedals for about 4 or 5 years. I just can't be bothered having any more repaired because of a stupid switch choice.

joeyowen

Is it just oct in the loop you want? Because a few delays can do this, although the price really varies!

Boss PS3

Digitech Timebender

Eventide Pitchfator

Empress Superdelay

ThePrettyDamned

joeyowen;466431" said:

Is it just oct in the loop you want? Because a few delays can do this, although the price really varies!

Boss PS3Digitech TimebenderEventide PitchfatorEmpress Superdelay

Ooo didn't realise some did octave up repeats anyway. Good shout.

The time bender could be a real contender, did @drew_fx get one recently?

A loop would be cool because I could pop more things in the loop to make things even more warped and twisted, but I suspect the most useful, musical application would be an octave up for hysteria-esque lead lines.

GavRichList

I own both the boss PS3 and The Empress. Both are great. The Empress is truly great, but has a hefty price tag to match - if you can snare an old PS3, you won't be disappointed. Has to be a 3 though; it's the only one of the boss phase shifters that has it. Mode 7 if you wish to YouTube examples. The empress is reverse mode C.

joeyowen

ThePrettyDamned said:

joeyowen;466431" said:

Is it just oct in the loop you want? Because a few delays can do this, although the price really varies!

Boss PS3Digitech TimebenderEventide PitchfatorEmpress Superdelay

Ooo didn't realise some did octave up repeats anyway. Good shout.

The time bender could be a real contender, did @drew_fx get one recently?

A loop would be cool because I could pop more things in the loop to make things even more warped and twisted, but I suspect the most useful, musical application would be an octave up for hysteria-esque lead lines.

Timebender is, and has always been, my favourite delay.  I go on about it a lot, so I'll keep it short.  But get one  There is a two part demo by some shop on youtube that sells it well

ThePrettyDamned

GavHaus;466466" said:

I own both the boss PS3 and The Empress. Both are great. The Empress is truly great, but has a hefty price tag to match - if you can snare an old PS3, you won't be disappointed. Has to be a 3 though; it's the only one of the boss phase shifters that has it. Mode 7 if you wish to YouTube examples. The empress is reverse mode C.

I'll head to YouTube now.

I like the idea of a boss. What's bypass like? Some can be a bit iffy, though most are fine - and my board is pretty well buffered, so if it likes seeing a buffered signal that's fine.

joeyowen

ThePrettyDamned said:

I like the idea of a boss. What's bypass like? Some can be a bit iffy, though most are fine - and my board is pretty well buffered, so if it likes seeing a buffered signal that's fine.

That really depends who you ask, or where you ask it.

The bypass is fine on all boss pedals I own, though non as old as the PS3. 

DarnWeight

Would something with a wet and dry output work for you?...i.e. you might have a pedal next-in-line with stereo INs or something.  If so, you'd be able to do much the same thing as with the loop, but you'll probably find a few other options out there that might work with your requirements list.  For instance, I know my old E1 Headrush has wet/dry outs.  Think one of the newer Visual Sound delays has dual outs, too.

GavRichList

No noticeable issues on mine

Drew_TNBD

Checkout this audio clip of the Digitech Timebender that I did, that I would've posted before now, but I was in the cooler for calling Emp Fab a posterior-ejaculator.

ThePrettyDamned

Drew_fx;466514" said:

Checkout this audio clip of the Digitech Timebender that I did, that I would've posted before now, but I was in the cooler for calling Emp Fab a posterior-ejaculator.

Nice, that sounds really rather promising.

Not horrendously expensive either. Any negatives to add? It could be beating a few rather expensive boutique delays right now.

ThePrettyDamned

GavHaus;466496" said:

No noticeable issues on mine

Cool, I'll have an eBay around.

I do love boss pedals. I always think they're the coolest looking, an all boss board is something that I can't achieve but wish I could.

GavRichList

There's one on reverb with a make offer option.

Vintage Boss PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay https://reverb.com/item/397673-vintage-boss-ps-3-digital-pitch-shifter-delay