Help!!!!!!! Downloading music "that isnt on itunes and may not cost anything" if you get my drift

Travisthedog

I have to do a disco playlist for tomorrow nights gig (which is actually my wifes 40th)

can i do this in a way that wont bankrupt me if you understand me?

monquixote

Sign up for a free trial of Spotify.

octatonic

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.

monquixote

octatonic said:

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.

As compared to illegally downloading music like most people do.

Travisthedog

well, normally i would worry about that but the shit i am having to do is 90;s dance and no one deserves to be compensated for that

How does spotify work - will it let be store the music on an itunes playlist

octatonic

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.

As compared to illegally downloading music like most people do.

Yes, both examples of eminently cuntifular behaviour.

monquixote

Travisthedog said:

well, normally i would worry about that but the shit i am having to do is 90;s dance and no one deserves to be compensated for that

How does spotify work - will it let be store the music on an itunes playlist

It has it's own app, but you can make a playlist and mark it offline if you want to use it away from a network.

monquixote

octatonic said:

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.

As compared to illegally downloading music like most people do.

Yes, both examples of eminently cuntifular behaviour.

Presumably artists can opt out if they so desire.

Are there any stats on what percentage of the cash you pay goes to artists?

They have £120 a year out of me and I would hope a decent percentage of that goes to musicians.

octatonic

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.

As compared to illegally downloading music like most people do.

Yes, both examples of eminently cuntifular behaviour.

Presumably artists can opt out if they so desire.

Are there any stats on what percentage of the cash you pay goes to artists?

They have £120 a year out of me and I would hope a decent percentage of that goes to musicians.

It does not.

They pay a tiny, tiny percentage to artists.

I have a bunch of tracks that I've worked on up on Spotify.

I get paid virtually nothing, especially compared to the other sources.

There is a lot of information up on the web- a quick googling of 'Spotify rips-off artists' should enlighten you.

Some artists can opt out- some artists cannot- it depends on the contract they have with the label.

I'm not going to say people shouldn't use Spotify or Pandora, but they need to realise that artists are getting monumentally screwed- more than they ever have been before.

monquixote

octatonic said:

It does not.

They pay a tiny, tiny percentage to artists.

I have a bunch of tracks that I've worked on up on Spotify.

I get paid virtually nothing, especially compared to the other sources.

There is a lot of information up on the web- a quick googling of 'Spotify rips-off artists' should enlighten you.

Some artists can opt out- some artists cannot- it depends on the contract they have with the label.

I'm not going to say people shouldn't use Spotify or Pandora, but they need to realise that artists are getting monumentally screwed- more than they ever have been before.

I just googled it. Spotify claim that they give 70% of revenue to the rightsholders. 

The suggestion is that it is the record labels screwing the artists rather than Spotify. 

Do any of the other streaming services give a better percentage than Spotify?

Looking at what a premium play gets a user apparently it's 1.5c which does seem rather low as that equates an itunes purchase to about 40 odd listens. 

randomhandclaps

Alternatively you could post the names of the track you require and some nice folks might send them your way - for a non-profitable listen of course!

octatonic

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

It does not.

They pay a tiny, tiny percentage to artists.

I have a bunch of tracks that I've worked on up on Spotify.

I get paid virtually nothing, especially compared to the other sources.

There is a lot of information up on the web- a quick googling of 'Spotify rips-off artists' should enlighten you.

Some artists can opt out- some artists cannot- it depends on the contract they have with the label.

I'm not going to say people shouldn't use Spotify or Pandora, but they need to realise that artists are getting monumentally screwed- more than they ever have been before.

I just googled it. Spotify claim that they give 70% of revenue to the rightsholders. 

The suggestion is that it is the record labels screwing the artists rather than Spotify. 

Do any of the other streaming services give a better percentage than Spotify?

Looking at what a premium play gets a user apparently it's 1.5c which does seem rather low as that equates an itunes purchase to about 40 odd listens. 

No, it is Spotify who are paying pennies.

They don't publish data on the deals they have with artists but I can tell you it is less than 0.1p per stream (for the stuff I'm on, or I produced).

Amazon/Bandcamp/iTunes pay more.

Pandora are pretty poor too.

Have a read of this: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/19/zoe-keating-spotify-streaming-royalties

Travisthedog

yeah - all that

but can spotify playlists appear in itunes so i can use the function in itunes that fades one song into another

octatonic

Travisthedog said:

yeah - all that

but can spotify playlists appear in itunes so i can use the function in itunes that fades one song into another

No.

Travisthedog

and i take it spotify has no fade fucntion

monquixote

Travisthedog said:

yeah - all that

but can spotify playlists appear in itunes so i can use the function in itunes that fades one song into another

I don't know what functions iTunes offers, but you can make playlists in the Spotify app and then have them play back with crossfading between the tracks. 

You can also get mp3s of anything you have ever bought from Amazon via autorip.

octatonic

Travisthedog said:

and i take it spotify has no fade fucntion

I don't have the current version of it (and don't use it anymore) but it never used to.

monquixote

octatonic said:

Travisthedog said:

and i take it spotify has no fade fucntion

I don't have the current version of it (and don't use it anymore) but it never used to.

It does now with a selectable crossfade period.

fretmeister

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

monquixote said:

octatonic said:

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.

As compared to illegally downloading music like most people do.

Yes, both examples of eminently cuntifular behaviour.

Presumably artists can opt out if they so desire.

Are there any stats on what percentage of the cash you pay goes to artists?

They have £120 a year out of me and I would hope a decent percentage of that goes to musicians.

Frank Gambal did a blog about it. 17,000 plays of one of his songs earned him 15 cents. So that is 0.0008 cents per play.

Van_Hayden

monquixote;54493" said:

octatonic said:

Spotify works great if you don't care about compensating musicians and songwriters for their efforts.










As compared to illegally downloading music like most people do.

Illegal downloads hurt record companies more than the average musician.

Spotify hurts the average musician greatly, arguably more so than illegal downloads. It makes the listener feel all warm and happy because it's legal, and that listener is the same law abiding listener who would have bought the music if Spotify wasn't there. And I'm guilty, I've not bought tracks because I've used Spotify - but I have discovered music that I then bought on iTunes so it's a bit of a double edged sword.

At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Van_Hayden

Back on topic, surely you just need any random 90s dance hit & hit repeat? Nobody will know.