Cabs and costs....

BlazeHelm

I must be missing something. I'm looking for a second Egnater 112x cab, they retail at £209 and are loaded with - for all intents and purposes - a Celestion Lead 80. My roving eye looks at alternatives, and I spot the Dr. Z 1x12, which retails at more than twice the price, yet contains a slightly cheaper Celestion V30. I just don't get it. Seriously, am I missing something? What justifies the extra £250?

leerocker

Egnaters chinese made for a start, also the grade of the wood may be cheaper on egnaters, most high end cabs use marine birch ply

guitarfishbay

Cabs are generally priced in line with the rest of the company's gear. Premium brands like Dr Z etc don't tend to sell cabs cheaply.

BlazeHelm

Yeah, the 112x uses birch ply and its built like a brick outhouse...sounds like it's more to do with the label on the front than the design or performance.

Maynehead

Same reason why a Harley Benton 2x12 with V30s cost £160 and an Orange 2x12 with V30s cost £540...

Chalky

Baltic birch ply aint exactly expensive so the majority of the price difference is name.

ICBM

I know this is likely to raise some eyebrows but it's something that's been bugging me for a long time so I will finally say it.

Everything by Dr.Z I've seen has been overpriced for what it is and in some cases not as well-made as I would expect for that sort of money and the reputation it has.

monquixote

ICBM said:

I know this is likely to raise some eyebrows but it's something that's been bugging me for a long time so I will finally say it.

Everything by Dr.Z I've seen has been overpriced for what it is and in some cases not as well-made as I would expect for that sort of money and the reputation it has.

I think you pay for that trendy boutique reputation. 

I'm sure you could get someone like MJW to make you something just as good for a lot less.

Moe_Zambeek

All the Zs I've tried have been piercingly bright and thin sounding, too much for me and I like treble more than most.

That was a mini z (dreadful) and some Maz's (slightly better).
They weren't cranked right enough.

John_A

At gig volume a Maz 18 has more bottom than my missus, and fatter than a fat thing. In the UK they are expensive new, but used they are IMO good value for money

crunchman

Moe_Zambeek said:

All the Zs I've tried have been piercingly bright and thin sounding, too much for me and I like treble more than most.

Have to agree.  I'd read a lot of good things about them and went to try one at Peach when I was in that part of the world and I found to far too toppy for my liking.

Pete24v

I had a maz 38 Reverb Head and it certainly wasn't lacking in low end, in fact it was staggeringly bassey for a 4xel84 amp.

RaymondLin

Maynehead said:

Same reason why a Harley Benton 2x12 with V30s cost £160 and an Orange 2x12 with V30s cost £540...

Bogner Cube 1x12 with V30.....£525.

Beexter

monquixote;624227" said:

I'm sure you could get someone like MJW to make you something just as good for a lot less.

I have an MJW cab and it is first rate. Martin was also great to deal with and patient with my endless questions. I'd highly recommend his work.

ThePrettyDamned

RaymondLin;625050" said:

Maynehead said:

Same reason why a Harley Benton 2x12 with V30s cost £160 and an Orange 2x12 with V30s cost £540...













Bogner Cube 1x12 with V30.....£525.

I don't think I could justify that for a name, especially when (as mentioned above) there are builders here who can make something to a very high standard for less.

But, for some people, the look is just as important (though I think the bogner cube is a bit weird looking!). I really, for example, LOVE the look of those mesa vertical 2x12 rec cabs but they're astonishingly expensive... Well built for sure, but not a great deal better than other more mainstream kit and certainly not better built than a custom cab made here.

Yet I'd still want it... Over a custom cab, probably!

I feel the same way about fender amps. Plenty of boutique tweaks of the theme, but none look as good as a silverface or tweed fender cab (annoyingly at times!).

BlazeHelm

Well, my second Rebel 112x is on its way from Peach Guitars. Seems rarer than hens teeth so I had to have it. Looking forward to hearing what two of em sound like