Wall hangers

RMJ

Man cave is coming along nicely.  I bought a job lot of Hercules wall hangers and would like to use them. House is timber framed with dry lining. The guitars would be hung on an exterior wall and a stud wall.  I paid for the builder to reinforce two walls with plyboard behind the dry lining. However I have drilled a couple of pilot holes and I reckon they have just put  a double thickness of dry lining.

So what should I use to fix the hangers to the wall?  Should I locate the timber frame and drill into that with 2x4 to be safe?

Gru

http://www.neweysonline.co.uk/neweys/pdf/Rawlplug_Specification_Technical.pdf

I have used Rawl Plugs for a lot of heavy items around the house. Most going into a single plasterboard layer.

My current Acoustic is hung using them and from the sheet attached, even on the thinnest 9.5mm plaster board good for 10kg weight baring.

When you think of the force that would be needed to pull the top raw plug out of a wall on a short arm Hercules bracket, I would imagine they should be fine.

As with anything DIY, it's about the quality of holes drilled and use of the correct size screws. A drilled hole that is too big with a screw that is below the recommended, could cause a problem.

GazLion

I've used these with great success -http://m.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-intersets-m5-x-37mm-pack-of-20/99201?kpid=99201&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&kpid=99201&cm_mmc=Google-_-Shopping%20-%20Fixings%20and%20Fasteners-_-Shopping%20-%20Fixings%20and%20Fasteners&gclid=Cj0KEQjwqe-rBRCv_J6qs6isp6EBEiQAmbctFrbGFPyYSjRcMeIHk8GkxPRFZ9Gh2ZP7dWGlRVhiro4aAio68P8HAQ

RMJ

Cheers @Gru. So a bog standard red rawl will take 10kg in 12.5mm plasterboard? What have I been worrying about!

simonk

I like to fix the hangers to a wooden batten and then fix the batten to the wall. Actually, I fix the batten securely to the wall first and then cover the holes with the hangers. No flies on me see.

Mr_Bluesman

Plasterboard is either as mentioned with a batten into the wood frame of the stud wall or I cannot recommend these enough http://www.wickes.co.uk/gripit I've got guitars including Les Paul's (Heavy) hung with them, absolutely fantastic product. You only need the yellow ones for guitar weight. I mentioned them in another thread on here of a similar vein. 1 or 2 people were unsure (as we always are with thing we haven't tried). All I can say is I've used them loads, they're solid and dead easy to fit.

Mr_Bluesman

Oh and it's Hercules hangers I've used with them

GuitarZero

I use these on an outside wall.  Most outside walls the plasterboard is dot and dab fixed so there aren't any batons.

http://www.drylinepro.com/

They go straight through the plasterboard and fix into the breeze block behind.

On an inside wall I find the baton and fix to that.

markslade07

No More Nails holds everything. It says so on the tube.

Gru

RMJ;669195" said:

Cheers @Gru. So a bog standard red rawl will take 10kg in 12.5mm plasterboard? What have I been worrying about!

According to the sheet yes. Personally I normally use blue for heavier items, although there isn't much between them for plasterboard.

The wickes options also look very impressive. I had never seen them before.

I don't know what it cassified as a heavy guitar, but 10lb is under 5kg so both options above should be fine.

TinLip

Bog standard red plugs into the same type of wall you have. 

Currently have a Fender P-Bass and a very heavy Tele and not a sign of movement. Been like that for about a year now. 

iseverynamegone

I have Hercules hangers with blue plugs. They held my heavy as hell 355 no issue.

RMJ

I've always thought of plasterboard as something that would fail if a fly landed on it. If a humble rawl plug can take 10kg, and there are products that can take 160kg, then there doesn't seem to be a problem.

usedtobe

Name and shame the dodgy builder!

destere

A friend of mine used no more nails and it eventually gave way - he had a very slight damp problem though. Just something worth considering! 

(The damp problem was with the walls, not him!)

Iamnobody

You could use no more nails in addition to screws for a bit more peace of mind.

Or these plasterboard fixings:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Rawlplug-41-645-Interset-Cavity-Fixing-M5x40mm-Pack-6/p/215072

The bloke who owned our last house before us fitted everything with these. Even the toilet roll holder!

They are complete bastards to remove without pulling off bits of plaster. Once they are in your geetar will stay put.

RMJ

usedtobe;669362" said:

Name and shame the dodgy builder!

Charles Church. The name on the finest homes. Pff

RMJ

Mr_Bluesman;669214" said:

Plasterboard is either as mentioned with a batten into I the wood frame of the stud wall or I cannot recommend these enough http://www.wickes.co.uk/gripit I've got guitars including Les Paul's (Heavy) hung with them, absolutely fantastic product. You only need the yellow ones for guitar weight.

I mentioned them in another thread on here of a similar vein. 1 or 2 people were unsure (as we always are with thing we haven't tried). All I can say is I've used them loads, they're solid and dead easy to fit.

I used gripit today to put up some curtains. Great product and really sturdy. Would be great if the wall I was hanging guitars from was hollow, but I think they've put a double thickness of dry lining in so gripit may not be an option. Thinking those screw on jobbies may do the trick.