Audio drums to Midi

johnswiss

I believe Abbleton Live 9 can do this, unfortunately I only have 8 and Sonar x1. I need something that can convert a single audio track of drums into an equivalent midi track. I know there is software that will do it if you have the drum parts on separate tracks but unfortunately the drums im working with are all on one track. Cheers

PolarityMan

drumagog you can set different frequency bands for different drums, i doubt you'll get more than bass and snare out reliably though.

I think slate makes something too.

johnswiss

PolarityMan;703233" said:

drumagog you can set different frequency bands for different drums, i doubt you'll get more than bass and snare out reliably though.

I think slate makes something too.

Yes I was reading about slate but like others it suggests separate tracks. I wondered if anyone had done it with Abbleton 9? I will look up drumagog too, thanks.

Emp_Fab

If you can find anything that can create a midi track from audio and produce something even remotely usable, I'll be gobsmacked.  The waveform of a mixed audio signal is just too complex to pull apart reliably.

ToneControl

what's the objective?

I assume to replace the drum sounds?

this has been available in Protools for years:

this one from 15 years ago:

http://www.mixonline.com/news/profiles/digidesign-soundreplacer-audiosuite-plug-pro-tools/372029

a more updated version came 9 years ago:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep06/articles/tlrehab.htm

octatonic

None of these options with a single audio track of drums. They are designed for multitrack drum reprocessing. I haven't used Live, maybe that is different.

johnswiss

Emp_Fab;703304" said:

If you can find anything that can create a midi track from audio and produce something even remotely usable, I'll be gobsmacked.  The waveform of a mixed audio signal is just too complex to pull apart reliably.

I will be too to be honest, but if it can it would be great with minimal tidying up. The drums were played live on an electric kit so are quite clean sounding.

ToneControl;703327" said:

what's the objective?

I assume to replace the drum sounds?

this has been available in Protools for years:

this one from 15 years ago:http://www.mixonline.com/news/profiles/digidesign-soundreplacer-audiosuite-plug-pro-tools/372029



a more updated version came 9 years ago:http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep06/articles/tlrehab.htm

Yes to replace them. Id heard protools had something too, I will check out the links. Thanks

spark240

Mm,m....maybe you can show all the transients in the audio track and use them to trigger drum sounds, a sort of side chain thing? I've never done it by the way....

Danny1969

Getting kick and snare separated out is pretty easy, I've recreated kick and snare tracks from one overhead track by manually copying the transients to tracks below. Then using the new transients to trigger either Drumagog or these days Slate Trigger which is an amazing bit if drum triggering software. Massey plugins do a good trigger to midi plug but I expect it's Protools only, most of his stuff is. 

Never head to recreate hats, rides ect so not sure how successful that would be, again zoomed in you could see those but copying them would be labour intensive to say the least

spark240

Nerine

Toontrack drum tracker.

johnswiss

Thanks for all the advice so far, it seems most of the software is geared up to using separate audio files for each drum part but still some good stuff out there. Would still be interested to hear from anyone with Abbleton Live 9 as the demo I've seen from that did take a complete drum part on one audio file. Cheers

Nerine

You obviously didn't look at drum tracker properly then?

johnswiss

Nerine said:

You obviously didn't look at drum tracker properly then?

Well, I had a little look at the SOS review, perhaps I need to delve more then? Have you tried it on a single audio track of drums? If it does work the price is certainly more appealing than Abbleton 9! Cheers

mrkb

Sonar has just added a drum replacer module based on the Melodyne technology, haven't tried it yet though.

Drew_TNBD

mrkb said:

Sonar has just added a drum replacer module based on the Melodyne technology, haven't tried it yet though.

That's interesting. I may have to give that a go.