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a Rainsong acoustic etc ?
the difference is pretty extreme.. "tonewoods" - a stupid concept when you consider we would have to call carbon or graphite "tonecomposites" definitely sound different.
the one problem I find with many perceptions since the advent of youtube especially (returning to the original post) is that anyone who has ever played live to any extent KNOWS that the live sound VS the recorded sound is different... its missing the vibration that makes your chest move and the hairs on your arms stand up.. "recorded guitar tones" are not truly representative...
This is the reason why i do very little in the way of guitar demo's anymore, because after 5 mins with £100 worth of line 6 stuff and POD farm, I can make a guitar sound like anything I want... its only when you leave the house, go to a shop or a show and play or listen to an instrument that you know really know how it sounds..
I once did some guitar demo's,
but not for years now.
also, as far as materials "fads" go, could someone please start an MDF fad because then I could charge more for working with dangerous dusts and make a ton more money
anyway, im watching England vs Australia 2003 and Jason Leonard has just come on so... enough typing for now
The young do not know enough to be prudent, therefore they attempt the impossible - and achieve it, generation after generation.
Um ... hate to tell you this ... but two examples of the same pickup ... wound in the same factory ... by the same machines can sound different too. Magnet batches vary, wire diameter is actually really quite inconsistent ... and is often stretched by machine winding tensioners.
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I'd take the word of an experienced builder over that of say, Billy Gibbons or Keith Richards any day.
I have a beaten up partscaster Tele in my studio for use by all and sundry, and was listening to a couple of very good players who'd just been playing it saying how "magical" and "alive" it was, even when you turn the volume down it's like it's "haunted, man".
Er no, it has a treble pass cap in it, which cost 29p. I didn't tell them though, it seemed cruel.
'That'll do' is a pretty unfair assesment of what I meant.
To sum up my philosophy as it currently stands -
Once you're lets say 95% of the say there to the right tone, small differences in tone matter much less than
- the tone of each other musician in the band and how it works together
- the ability of all musicians in the band to play their instruments well enough to generate nice sounds (within thel imitations of what equipment they have)
- the performance given by everyone as a whole and individually
- the material itself
I didn't say anything about having unprofessional gear. I also am not deaf and know everything makes a difference. I'm very picky about what I spend my own money on for starters.
The thing is that once you've basically got the right sound other things just matter so much more.
When people hear a piece of music they hear it as a whole. Will it ruin their experience if it sounds crap, yes. Will it ruin their experience if it sounds great (but could in theory be better) I'd say no. Should it stop someone trying to sound better - no. But there comes a point with diminishing returns on investment - both with regards to time and money.
You have to know your priorities at the end of the day. Understanding the small details is one thing, knowing when and how much they really matter in a situation is another.
the players style will always suit some guitars more than others, same goes for amps..
but, this discussion is about body wood making a difference to the tone.
The young do not know enough to be prudent, therefore they attempt the impossible - and achieve it, generation after generation.
No one willing to have a go ? or no one got spotify ?
yea, true.
especially over the internet.
what is this tele challenge thing ?
The young do not know enough to be prudent, therefore they attempt the impossible - and achieve it, generation after generation.
was unaware of this, certainly there was a helluva difference in tone between the bridge setting on the guitars I mentioned despite having the same pick up
Have only just watched the video. It's not that bad, they've tried to control quite a lot of the variables. It'd be better to have the same person doing the strum, because the touch matters. It would be interesting to tear down the guitar, change only the body and try it again, but:
1. Not going to happen in a quick youtube video. And can't A/B on the amp, which introduces other variables.
2. You can then say any difference is due to the assembly being slightly different.
3. Like the experiment in the video it's an N=1 test. Doesn't put the results in context. Does one guitar have a massive crack in it? Probably not.
One thing you could do is get a stack of both types and A/B them (whether you do them all against each other or one-off pair comparisons depends whether you care how the intra-type variability compares to the inter-type variability).