Any computery people do Exchange migrations ?

Emp_Fab

I'm trying to find out the best way to migrate a combined 2003 DC & Exchange 2003 server into separate virtual 2008R2 boxes running on Hyper-V where one VM will be the sole DC and the other the Exchange server running Exchange 2010 on 2008R2.  I've only tried it once and it all went tits-up with Exchange 2010 breaking once I'd migrated the roles to the new DC.  The domain name must remain unchanged but the DC & Exchange VMs can be called anything.

Just thought I'd ask in case there were any computery bods who might know.

johnnyurq

Long time ago in a Galaxy far far away.

But might have some electronic documentation etc archived somewhere. When/if I find it I will stick it on Dropbox for you

Emp_Fab

Cheers dude.  It's not the Exchange migration that's the problem - it's the DC migration that seems to break Exchange !

digitalscream

Funnily enough, it was a high-profile (in the organisation I worked for) Exchange migration which ended up botched due to dodgy Microsoft code and terrible support which finally pushed me over the edge into Linux-world completely.

Fucking horrible product.

Emp_Fab

Absolutely.  However, mine is not to make purchasing decisions - unfortunately.  My job is just to do what I'm told - even if the way I'm told to do it won't work because it hasn't been planned or tested properly and we end up using customers as guinea pigs.

mcsdan

Done a few migrations over the years. EXchange 2010 has addition configuration settings (Organisation setting IRC) that specify the DC to hold the exchange config. SO you would install new 2008R2 DC and make sure sync'd and roles transfered to new DC (FMSO, PDC etc). Then install exchange 2010 and make sure exchange config is coming from new DC. Config exchange send/receive connectors, OWA etc and test. Migrate mailboxes/public folders - do a few "test" mailboxes first to check connectivity. Then remove old exchange and demote old DC.

Be aware on the important of TCP/IP and correct resolution of names/nameservers.

I have a project in the new year to migrate Ex2003 to ex2010 with DAG and CAS arrays.

If you want to PM me your email address I'll send over some notes I have that I've used for 2003->2007 then 2007 to 2010. Provided as is but should point you in the right direction

bertie

meat and drink to our company.   Not me however, different area

Once upon a time not long ago, you couldnt go 2003 - 2010 as Dan implies, was that because of  how it uses W2008 schema extensions not available in 2003 ?  not sure,  I do know you can now.

If in doubt  register yourself, and log a thread on the technet forum.  Very useful, most of the time

johnnyurq

@Emp_Fab

PM me an email address and I will ping you an invite to Dropbox for some files that may (or may not) be useful/handy, there is a shed load so enjoy.

monquixote

I've recently been involved in a 2003 to Linux IMAP/CalDAV/CardDAV migration. 

Getting somewhat fed up with people whinging about not being able to use Outlook.

hywelg

monquixote said:

Getting somewhat fed up with people whinging about now being able to use Outlook.

Not compulsory surely? Did you mean 'not' ?

Myranda

Exchange migrations?

My friend Phil has done two of these in a year. 

Since then he's had to cut short evenings out on an alarmingly frequent basis since it keeps falling down.

I say leave the exchange server alone as they get all wobbly once you touch them

Emp_Fab

Unfortunately that's not an option.  We're being paid to do roughly 30-odd of them.  They wish to give us large monies, I wish to be able to say "There you go, all done!" at the end of each job, instead of "Err... could you get me the last backup tape please". :-)  However, if my employers believed in such a thing as proper training, I wouldn't be on a music forum asking for tips.

Myranda

Emp_Fab said:

Unfortunately that's not an option.  We're being paid to do roughly 30-odd of them.  They wish to give us large monies, I wish to be able to say "There you go, all done!" at the end of each job, instead of "Err... could you get me the last backup tape please". :-)  However, if my employers believed in such a thing as proper training, I wouldn't be on a music forum asking for tips.

You know... that might be the wisest thing you've said in a very long time.

bertie

Emp_Fab said:

We're being paid to do roughly 30-odd of them.  .

and you dont know how to do it ?   dont work for HP / EDS do you ?    LOL

  fuck me Id like to see the risk assessment 

Myranda

bertie said:

Emp_Fab said:

We're being paid to do roughly 30-odd of them.  .

and you dont know how to do it ?   dont work for HP / EDS do you ?    LOL

  fuck me Id like to see the risk assessment 

You know it was HP networking stuff that my friend's school had huge problems with - they paid a company to install the HP gear, but that company didn't tell them that while they're Cisco specialists they had no clue about the HP stuff

I wonder if that company were based somewhere in Wales... 

Emp_Fab

bertie said:  fuck me Id like to see the risk assessment 

Risk assessment ???

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bertie said:

and you dont know how to do it ?

That makes two of us then. :-)

I do know how to do it... I'm just having a small bit of bother with it actually working at the end of it :-)

monquixote

hywelg said:

monquixote said:

Getting somewhat fed up with people whinging about now being able to use Outlook.

Not compulsory surely? Did you mean 'not' ?

Ooops yes. 

Outlook doesn't support CalDAV despite it being the number one requested feature for about the last five years to ensure the Exchange lock in. 

bertie

Emp_Fab said:

I do know how to do it... 

so you dont work for EDS then......................  

guitargeek62

bertie said:

Once upon a time not long ago, you couldnt go 2003 - 2010 as Dan implies, was that because of  how it uses W2008 schema extensions not available in 2003 ?  not sure,  I do know you can now.

Afaik you still need a 2008 swing server to do it. You certainly do to bring 2003 up to 2013 at least, and I'm 95% sure the same was true for 2010.