No screw, no glue neck joint......

paulnb57

Amazing carpentey skills, a solution looking for a problem? Clever or overthought?

 

DiscoStu

Very clever, but unnecessary. We've managed just fine this long, haven't we? Given the depth and length of joint required, what happens when the wood is carved back to neck thickness? Will he end up removing the locking tongue at the base of the heel? We need an 'after' video to see the end result.

As a former cabinet maker I applaud the thought involved. It seems based on this Japanese joint:

ICBM

Clever, but pointless really. Once the block has been driven in you can't get it apart any more easily than a standard glued joint.

If that was me I would use it to make a glued joint absolutely flawless rather than to avoid glue - that's what all the best cabinet-makers' joints do anyway... because old glues were not that strong, they're designed so the fit of the wood provides the strength and the glue just locks them into place.

paulnb57

Heres the finished guitar.......

http://scottwalkerguitars.com/katana-from-dream-to-reality/

as stated above you'd never get it apart....

joeyowen

Very clever indeed

DiscoStu

The heel is under the 13th fret. That's not progress!

Great carpentry though.

Steffo

Reading about them to remove the neck apparently he just puts a screw in the block and pulls it out. Then he makes a new block when rebuilt. Very clever and beautiful guitar, but not cheap at $6500.

bluebuddha

I think its great, 'we've always done it that way' is a bad reason to reject innovation/change.

I'm sure the plug could be removed by someone skilful enough to produce such a joint in the first place.

My only concern would be humidity, whilst not really a problem here, if it were in a very dry environment would it shrink enough to have a detrimental effect?

Mkjackary

Most people agree that bolt ons sound different to set necks, and set necks slightly different to neck throughs. Would these in turn sound slightly different? 

I like the Idea of all that surface area, cant do anything bad for the sustain surely? If they added glue to that, it wouldn't be any less likely to break, so why add it? 

I think I like it just because it is pretty to be honest.

Rocker

Seems like a lot of very accurate cutting and routing is necessary. But fair dues to him...

octatonic

ICBM said:

Clever, but pointless really. Once the block has been driven in you can't get it apart any more easily than a standard glued joint.

If that was me I would use it to make a glued joint absolutely flawless rather than to avoid glue - that's what all the best cabinet-makers' joints do anyway... because old glues were not that strong, they're designed so the fit of the wood provides the strength and the glue just locks them into place.

Agree.

Sassafras

It's a lot of trouble to go to for such a short necked guitar.

octatonic

I sent it to a luthier mate and he said it is the same join that you extend house beams with.

DiscoStu

octatonic said:

I sent it to a luthier mate and he said it is the same join that you extend house beams with.

Check the video I posted in the first reply

octatonic

Ah, right yes.

ICBM

If the new-build house a chap who used to work for my dad bought was anything to go by, you extend house beams by tacking on another bit with a few six-inch nails.

:-O

He fixed it with some threaded steel studding and load plates if I remember correctly.