Euro 2016 thread

Fretwired

thermionic said:

Clarky said:

up until about the last 30 mins I thought Wales would win it..

but they dropped into a siege mentality trying to hold on to the draw which invited England in

hats off to Wales though.. I thought they worked very hard

I agree, Wales played too negatively. Jonny Williams and Aaron Ramsey were raring to get the ball up the other end.

A bit more adventure and Wales could have got a second .. Hart looks nervous and his defence were often AWOL.

Clarky

Fretwired said:

Clarky said:

up until about the last 30 mins I thought Wales would win it..

but they dropped into a siege mentality trying to hold on to the draw which invited England in

hats off to Wales though.. I thought they worked very hard

to be fair to England, the final 30 mins was the best I've seen them play for some time..

but finishing still seems to be a prob.. simply not enough shots on target to show for all that possession..

if England can win go on to win the group, they could possibly make the last 8

either way, as soon as England meets one of the top teams they'll be out

It could be argued that some teams (not having a pop at Wales) in the group stages play a conservative defensive game (Iceland) and that when England take on a team like Portugal in the knockout stages the game will be more open so there will be more opportunities. If Roy wants to play Kane he will need much better service.

remember the South Africa world cup when some teams were playing a sort of 'anti-football'

just defending all the time and filling the box with bodies

it was dreadful to watch..

at least with Wales and Iceland they'd soak it all up and then get up there with a solid attack when the chance arose

kinda the football equivalent of Ali's "rope a dope"

Clarky

Fretwired said:

thermionic said:

Clarky said:

up until about the last 30 mins I thought Wales would win it..

but they dropped into a siege mentality trying to hold on to the draw which invited England in

hats off to Wales though.. I thought they worked very hard

I agree, Wales played too negatively. Jonny Williams and Aaron Ramsey were raring to get the ball up the other end.

A bit more adventure and Wales could have got a second .. Hart looks nervous and his defence were often AWOL.

I agree… 

Wales looked well organised and worked really hard for each other..

up until the 1st England goal they looked dangerous on the counter attack

at 1-1 it was like they decided to shut up shop and try to protect the draw

that said.. it almost worked..

lloyd

All the bitching about England here makes me lol.

If that was Germany or France tonight that beat us 2-1 with a last minute goal, all the English would be wanking themselves off saying how patient they are, or how they never give up.

As it is because it's England there's no credit given, they got lucky, Wales were defensive etc.

You guys wonder why you don't do well in competitions or why the media abuse the team?

It's evident in this thread and these attitudes seep through to the team...

DanR

Fretwired;1113169" said:

I'd back Wales to beat Russia. They have an ageing back four .. run at them, get the free kick and give the ball to Bale .. :-)

Isn't that the normal game plan for Wales?

menamestom

lloyd said:

All the bitching about England here makes me lol.

If that was Germany or France tonight that beat us 2-1 with a last minute goal, all the English would be wanking themselves off saying how patient they are, or how they never give up.

As it is because it's England there's no credit given, they got lucky, Wales were defensive etc.

You guys wonder why you don't do well in competitions or why the media abuse the team?

It's evident in this thread and these attitudes seep through to the team...

Totally agree. 'We'll never beat Wales.' England beat Wales. 'Well we'll never beat Germany'. There's quite a few on here, i'd just rather look at the positives, which there are when we are top of the group.

Paul_C

lloyd said:

Gotta hate being right sometimes

menamestom

Fretwired said:

thermionic said:

Clarky said:

up until about the last 30 mins I thought Wales would win it..

but they dropped into a siege mentality trying to hold on to the draw which invited England in

hats off to Wales though.. I thought they worked very hard

I agree, Wales played too negatively. Jonny Williams and Aaron Ramsey were raring to get the ball up the other end.

A bit more adventure and Wales could have got a second .. Hart looks nervous and his defence were often AWOL.

'A bit more adventure'? They couldn't hold the ball. There were no decent chances other than the free kick. They had 31% posession and 2 shots on target, one if which was the goal. There defending was resolute but only because the whole team was behind the ball. They didn't have the option of being adveturous because they needed everbody to defend. Credit for their effort and England are not final material but there is a wide gap between the teams.

octatonic

Yes, all this- but mainly they failed to score enough goals.

kjdowd

octatonic said:

Yes, all this- but mainly they failed to score enough goals.

You jest, but I was in the car a lot today and listening to 5 live, Into the 9th hour of build up, John Hartson's filibuster-like endurance faltered and he was reduced to saying that England would really need to score more goals than Wales to win (to which there was the learned rejoinder that goals win games). No. Shit. Sherlock.

octatonic

kjdowd said:

octatonic said:

Yes, all this- but mainly they failed to score enough goals.

You jest, but I was in the car a lot today and listening to 5 live, Into the 9th hour of build up, John Hartson's filibuster-like endurance faltered and he was reduced to saying that England would really need to score more goals than Wales to win (to which there was the learned rejoinder that goals win games). No. Shit. Sherlock.

Ha, amazeballs.

mudslide73

kjdowd;1113432" said:

octatonic said:

Yes, all this- but mainly they failed to score enough goals.





You jest, but I was in the car a lot today and listening to 5 live, Into the 9th hour of build up, John Hartson's filibuster-like endurance faltered and he was reduced to saying that England would really need to score more goals than Wales to win (to which there was the learned rejoinder that goals win games). No. Shit. Sherlock.

I'm a big fan of John.. he's lucky to be alive too.

Chuffola

Northern Fucking Ireland - fantastic!

We're guaranteed 3rd in our group. Just have to pray we sneak in as 4th best placed 3rd place team (if that makes sense).

Of course, we're just as likely to beat Germany and top the group.

#GAWA

EricTheWeary

Saw the end of Poland v Germany. That consisted of Germany happy with a draw and just trying to keep possession, hope the earlier part was more exciting.

thomasross20

Haha to the polish rampage lol..

HONESTLY. Just watched the Germany game. Do players EVER have the balls to use their skill to take it past their marker!? It's all about safe passes, bloody boring!!

pintspiller

Nitefly said:

What a fantastic result for NI!

damn right. i shed a tear. i don't normally do that.

octatonic

Germany didn't really turn up tonight.

mudslide73

pintspiller;1113568" said:

Nitefly said:

What a fantastic result for NI!





damn right. i shed a tear. i don't normally do that.

Master Mudslide and I commented on the lack of marking on GMac right before he scored. Him and Jonny were colossal at the back too. I just wish that Brunty had been able to take part too.

Bellycaster

That's the trouble with Wales, too many Leeks in defence.

Seriously though, chuffed for N.I and I hope England and Wales progress from our group and the Russians finish bottom.

Fretwired

lloyd said:

All the bitching about England here makes me lol.

If that was Germany or France tonight that beat us 2-1 with a last minute goal, all the English would be wanking themselves off saying how patient they are, or how they never give up.

As it is because it's England there's no credit given, they got lucky, Wales were defensive etc.

You guys wonder why you don't do well in competitions or why the media abuse the team?

It's evident in this thread and these attitudes seep through to the team...

Disagree .. I said the same about England in the Russia game (look back in this thread - you said England were a good team) .. England were lucky to get the free kick. Other than that they rarely troubled the Russian keeper. For me this has nothing to do with Wales .. England are poor in the penalty area .. you don't get points for possession.

All Wales needed was an outlet. A big centre forward like Hartson to relieve the pressure. Lennon was getting angry at one point - Wales were easily dispossessing England forwards, but all they could do was kick down field to an England player who got the next attack going ensuring Wales faced relentless pressure.