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Whenever I've told one of these freaks about my history - beaten as a child, working class family with no opportunities, etc... etc... - I'm basically told that even after having to CHOOSE THE UTILITY FOR MY OWN FUCKING BEATINGS... I'm *STILL* overly privileged!! We've seen that here on this very forum; whenever I post stats and evidence to support my assertion that white working class boys are the most disadvantaged class in our society, it gets laughed at or ignored. Even though it's true.
Imagine what they'd say to you Lee, with your history of experiencing violence!
There is good news however - these people really are a minority in our society.
You cannot look at me or anyone else as a white person and conclude anything other than I probably don't tan very well!
Your playing the NAFALT game, and it's fucking dull.
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It's pretty clever really, but I think most people are becoming wise to it now.
The reason is that these people tend to swan into academic and governmental positions and they do have sway, even though they're a minority.
Anita Sarkeesian was invited to the UN for christ-sake!
You're confusing comedic edge with rudeness and aggression. And we've had this exchange in private before. We both know that on these topics we tend to disagree a fair amount, and we both use the same tactics. You calling me tedious is no less aggressive or rude just because you didn't use the word fuck and I did.
You've made demonstrable false statements in this thread. I will outline them for you.
- S stands for strawman. No it doesn't. It stands for social.
- The above is like saying that BMI is worthless because it paints a professional rugby forward as less healthy than a bedridden anorexic, ignoring that it wasn't intended to be applied to either. You were referencing something I said about the progressive stack. Here you seem to be saying that the progressive stack was not designed to compare a brown lesbian lawyer and a white male taxi driver. But this is untrue. It was designed to compare people from different social backgrounds, and it is used to assemble them in a sort of high-score table of privilege. This is well documented.
- All systems break down at their extremes. This seems like an empty polemic statement to me, and I don't see that it is necessarily true.
- See how easy it is to belittle those with whom you disagree? - Misrepresentation. I didn't belittle anyone who I particularly disagreed with. I belittled an ideology and philosophical train of thought. Totally different thing.
- You laughed in a belittling way directly at me when I made a post, even using a smiley to demonstrate your belittlement. I call that hypocrisy.
- Hence you getting so disproportionately angry and aggressive with me any time I disagree with what you've said. - I'm not angry. So another lie.
- I'm trying to get to the point where we can discuss things without you trying to dismiss everything I say out of hand with "you don't understand, shut up" posts. Also not true. You're just trying to be a wind-up merchant. You've not actually addressed any of the points I've made other than to say you disagree. Why do you disagree? With which particular bits?
So how about you actually tackle my arguments instead of my character Andi? So far every single contribution of yours in this thread is one big ad hominem. If I've said something that is actually INACCURATE... cite your source. If it rings true, I'll change my opinion. Alternatively, continue taking the piss. I'm happy to play ball for another 10 pages, coz I've only got progress bars to watch for the next hour!
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I think you're getting the cart before the horse on that. It isn't that concepts of privilege and progressive stack are not useful for comparing a brown lesbian lawyer and a white male taxi-driver... it's that if you want to compare those two... then those concepts are not the right tools.
The intention isn't to utilise the tools and to find a job for them... it's that you've got this thing you wanna do, what are the best tools for them?
I don't think skin colour and gender is a good enough metric for determining the privilege differential between those two generalised examples.