How to make friends and influence people - The Farage way

eSully

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2016/jun/28/nigel-farages-full-speech-to-meps-most-of-you-have-never-done-a-proper-job-video

Well worth a watch this, Nigel Farage gives a masterclass in diplomacy.

fretmeister

I shall be enjoying his obituary when the time comes.

Fretwired

Typical Guardian .. misinformation ... yes he said most of you haven't had a real job but they were booing him from the off .. he did make some valid points about working together to agree a free trade deal, remaining close friends and working together. But what the hell the guy is demonised and you can't beat a good soundbite. And no I wouldn't vote for Farrage but the likes of Farage and Corbyn get bad press as they don't fit the neat London-liberal stereotype so beloved of the BBC and papers.

I note they cut Junker's intro out. He's made some incendiary statements but gets off scot free.

Bogwhoppit

Fretwired said:

Typical Guardian .. misinformation ... yes he said most of you haven't had a real job but they were booing him from the off .. he did make some valid points about working together to agree a free trade deal, remaining close friends and working together. But what the hell the guy is demonised and you can't beat a good soundbite. And no I wouldn't vote for Farrage but the likes of Farage and Corbyn get bad press as they don't fit the neat London-liberal stereotype so beloved of the BBC and papers.

I note they cut Junker's intro out. He's made some incendiary statements but gets off scot free.

I just made a similar point on another thread. Yet again selective editing by the media.

jpttaylor

"Never done a proper job"

Representing the will of the people and upholding democracy isn't a real job apparently - who knew?

ICBM

I'd like to tie Farage and Juncker together and drop them in the middle of the North Sea to be perfectly honest, safe in the knowledge that they'd drown before either of them could be reasonable and help the other one undo the rope.

Fretwired

ICBM said:

I'd like to tie Farage and Juncker together and drop them in the middle of the North Sea to be perfectly honest, safe in the knowledge that they'd drown before either of them could be reasonable and help the other one undo the rope.

I'd vote for that although I'd add Shultz.

paulk

Farage is a cunt. End of.

siremoon

Juncker is not much better either.

skankdelvar

So Farage walks in, gets booed and 'no-platformed', the former Belgian PM calls him a liar and Juncker more or less tells him 'Fuck off and take your mates with you'. 

Farage says 'Who's laughing now, you lazy talent-less tossers?' 

I'm going to miss all this stuff when we're finally out. 

p90fool

Fretwired said:

ICBM said:

I'd like to tie Farage and Juncker together and drop them in the middle of the North Sea to be perfectly honest, safe in the knowledge that they'd drown before either of them could be reasonable and help the other one undo the rope.

I'd vote for that although I'd add Shultz.

Hang on, I always liked the Peanuts cartoons.

Evilmags

skankdelvar said:

So Farage walks in, gets booed and 'no-platformed', the former Belgian PM calls him a liar and Juncker more or less tells him 'Fuck off and take your mates with you'. 

Farage says 'Who's laughing now, you lazy talent-less tossers?' 

I'm going to miss all this stuff when we're finally out. 

The ashen faces were rather funny. 

skankdelvar

Evilmags said:

The ashen faces were rather funny. 

Speaking of 'ashen', some agenda-driven journo wrote that Cameron arrived looking 'ashen-faced'. Not a bit of it.

The photographs showed our 'invisible PM' to be his customarily ham-faced, rosy-cheeked self as he and Juncker each struggled to be the first to throw a welcoming arm round the other's shoulder (the savvy politician's dominance trick).

Business as usual, it would seem.

chillidoggy

Well, fair play to the bloke, I might not have agreed with all the content, but I thought he spoke very well, and told some home-truths to those who didn't want to hear it.

WezV

I think he probably won some British votes today with his soundbite insults inspired by pub politics.

That worries me immensely.

Garthy

Has anyone found a video unedited that includes Junker, Farage and that Belgian MEP? I've seen 5 different edits of the same event which paints wildly different versions of the same event.

PolarityMan

Much as I dislike the man parts of that speech were very good. And I'm not talking about the insults. Still not justification for a leave vote but he outlined the problems with the EU well in the beginning part.

Axe_meister

Now I'm not a violent person, but Farage make be want to beat the shit out of him Games of Thrones style

Heartfeltdawn

PolarityMan said:

Much as I dislike the man parts of that speech were very good. And I'm not talking about the insults. Still not justification for a leave vote but he outlined the problems with the EU well in the beginning part.

Farage doesn't speak bullshit all the time. He was the same during the General Election. Generally with his speeches I will agree with large amounts of it. His QT appearances are the same. Yes to point 1, I nod to point 2 but then he drops an enormous turd of an opinion presented as stone cold fact that's so laughably bad that it destroys his argument. For the General Election TV appearances, it was his comments about foreigners with AIDS coming here. If he actually pared down the things he commented on about about 25% and self-edited, he'd appeal to a lot more people. 

His speech yesterday wasn't horrible but the yah boo sucks attitude to Johnny Foreigner was pathetic. It wasn't statesmanlike or respectable.