Who actually won the Brexit vote?

Rocker

Cameron is gone. Boris is gone. Nigel is gone. Corbyn is going one of these days. So if the main protagonists are all gone, who actually won the vote? If this forum is representative of the wider UK, the people are very confused. A contest with no winners, only losers. Time for the dreaded penalty shootout...

Sporky

Me.

What's the prize?

Clarky

Rocker said:

Cameron is gone. Boris is gone. Nigel is gone. Corbyn is going one of these days. So if the main protagonists are all gone, who actually won the vote? If this forum is representative of the wider UK, the people are very confused. A contest with no winners, only losers. Time for the dreaded penalty shootout…

if it's down to penalties the German will win

breakstuff

Theresa May when she becomes the new Prime Minister.

Fretwired

Rocker said:

Cameron is gone. Boris is gone. Nigel is gone. Corbyn is going one of these days. So if the main protagonists are all gone, who actually won the vote? If this forum is representative of the wider UK, the people are very confused. A contest with no winners, only losers. Time for the dreaded penalty shootout...

The Leave campaign won. Cameron said he'd stay on but lied as usual.

And Boris hasn't gone anywhere .. he started the campaign as an MP and he's still an MP. Nigel is irrelevant - he's not an MP and can't influence the EU. They hate him more than Hitler.

stickyfiddle

People living outside the EU looking to invest in GBP-based assets. They all got 10% cheaper overnight.

Fretwired

stickyfiddle said:

People living outside the EU looking to invest in GBP-based assets. They all got 10% cheaper overnight.

Yep .. the IMF will have egg on their faces again .. S&P think the UK will do OK due to the devaluation of the pound and are recommending investing in the UK. They are forecasting growth this year. No Cameron Armageddon yet ..

fretmeister

Bankers

mike_l

Sporky said:

Me.

What's the prize?

First, and only prize is half a Curly-Wurly.

dtr

Fretwired said:

stickyfiddle said:

People living outside the EU looking to invest in GBP-based assets. They all got 10% cheaper overnight.

Yep .. the IMF will have egg on their faces again .. S&P think the UK will do OK due to the devaluation of the pound and are recommending investing in the UK. They are forecasting growth this year. No Cameron Armageddon yet ..

Can you point me to that S&P recommendation?  I can only find the research they published yesterday but the bleakness of that doesn't match the bull market stance you're describing:

"Overall, our current estimates suggest that Brexit will produce a drag amounting to 1.2% of GDP for the U.K. in 2017 and 1% in 2018 (see table 1 at the end of the article). These new estimates assume that access to the single market is maintained in 2017 and 2018, and that the BoE succeeds in keeping turmoil in financial markets in check."

chillidoggy

fretmeister said:

Bankers

Bloody autocorrect.

thumpingrug

I think we all lost.

Chalky

I think we all won!

(I'm a glass half-full kinda guy)

Rocker

Toss for penalties then, call

Fretwired

dtr said:

Fretwired said:

stickyfiddle said:

People living outside the EU looking to invest in GBP-based assets. They all got 10% cheaper overnight.

Yep .. the IMF will have egg on their faces again .. S&P think the UK will do OK due to the devaluation of the pound and are recommending investing in the UK. They are forecasting growth this year. No Cameron Armageddon yet ..

Can you point me to that S&P recommendation?  I can only find the research they published yesterday but the bleakness of that doesn't match the bull market stance you're describing:

"Overall, our current estimates suggest that Brexit will produce a drag amounting to 1.2% of GDP for the U.K. in 2017 and 1% in 2018 (see table 1 at the end of the article). These new estimates assume that access to the single market is maintained in 2017 and 2018, and that the BoE succeeds in keeping turmoil in financial markets in check."

Google is your friend ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

littlegreenman

Fretwired said:

dtr said:

Fretwired said:

stickyfiddle said:

People living outside the EU looking to invest in GBP-based assets. They all got 10% cheaper overnight.

Yep .. the IMF will have egg on their faces again .. S&P think the UK will do OK due to the devaluation of the pound and are recommending investing in the UK. They are forecasting growth this year. No Cameron Armageddon yet ..

Can you point me to that S&P recommendation?  I can only find the research they published yesterday but the bleakness of that doesn't match the bull market stance you're describing:

"Overall, our current estimates suggest that Brexit will produce a drag amounting to 1.2% of GDP for the U.K. in 2017 and 1% in 2018 (see table 1 at the end of the article). These new estimates assume that access to the single market is maintained in 2017 and 2018, and that the BoE succeeds in keeping turmoil in financial markets in check."

Google is your friend ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

Aren't both those articles pointing at "roughly" the same levels? Somewhere between 0.8 and 1.5 % variables either way?

I'm either massively missing the point or there's a tad of using whatever figures Google can find to prove whatever point is trying to be made by both/ either sides.

Or, I'm just thick and don't understand it all. Is there a term for a self-inflicted ad-hominem?

B'ah, I'm opening a cold one and then off to bed

preston61

Rupert Murdoch

Fretwired

littlegreenman said:

Fretwired said:

dtr said:

Fretwired said:

stickyfiddle said:

People living outside the EU looking to invest in GBP-based assets. They all got 10% cheaper overnight.

Yep .. the IMF will have egg on their faces again .. S&P think the UK will do OK due to the devaluation of the pound and are recommending investing in the UK. They are forecasting growth this year. No Cameron Armageddon yet ..

Can you point me to that S&P recommendation?  I can only find the research they published yesterday but the bleakness of that doesn't match the bull market stance you're describing:

"Overall, our current estimates suggest that Brexit will produce a drag amounting to 1.2% of GDP for the U.K. in 2017 and 1% in 2018 (see table 1 at the end of the article). These new estimates assume that access to the single market is maintained in 2017 and 2018, and that the BoE succeeds in keeping turmoil in financial markets in check."

Google is your friend ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

Aren't both those articles pointing at "roughly" the same levels? Somewhere between 0.8 and 1.5 % variables either way?

I'm either massively missing the point or there's a tad of using whatever figures Google can find to prove whatever point is trying to be made by both/ either sides.

Or, I'm just thick and don't understand it all. Is there a term for a self-inflicted ad-hominem?

B'ah, I'm opening a cold one and then off to bed

It's roughly what Osborne was forecasting last year - it's not negative - there won't be a big recession. Armageddon (as predicted by Cameron) and a big recession (as predicted by Osborne) avoided thus far. That's the point. People are moaning about the pound being at a 30 year low but it is helping exporters and makes the UK a decent place to invest in ...

Heartfeltdawn

preston61 said:

Rupert Murdoch

And Messrs Dacre, Desmond, Barclay x2, and Rothermere. 

Fretwired

Junker .. he hates us.

edenfield99

No one has won or lost yet, the game has only just kicked off. We don't leave for at least two years and a lot of what happens (the predicted Armageddon for example) will depend on what the leave negotiations result in. Really nothing has changed yet.