Why doesn't England just leave the UK?

ICBM

camf said:

^^^ A prophet has arisen... let him lead us to freedom!

You don't need to follow me. You don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals!

Nikko

Yes, we are all individuals.

Fretwired

ICBM said:

I proposed exactly that shortly after the referendum .

UKSNIG.

The United Kingdom Of Scotland, Northern Ireland And Gibraltar.

Why stop at pissing off the Spanish .. add the Falklands as well and piss off the Argies .. the new kingdom wouldn't be able to defend either as they won't have a navy .. :-)

camf

Yes, we are all individuals.

Sambostar

HAL9000 said:

Fretwired said:

speshul91 said:

Fretwired said:

There's a big problem with this .. can anybody see it?

We get stuck with Wales?

We could form a new country called Wagland .... 

Nah, how about...

Former Union of Celtic Kingdoms?

Does that mean we have to include Poland?

camf

Nobody REALLY wants the Falklands.

Sambostar

What if you have a split personality disorder?

Fretwired

Scotland can have it's 'freedom' tomorrow as far as most of England is concerned ... no strings, no threats, no violence .. why not have a second referendum and this time get the right result .. ;-)

AliGorie

Aint gonna happen guy's, ’THEY’VE’ all got shares in it.
'THEY'D' SEND THE TROOPS IN
We hear how bad the ‘High Streets doing but not a word of this - not a word in the UK MSM, North Sea Find in the Trillions - and not a word.

"Dr Richard Pike, a former oil industry consultant and now the chief executive of the Royal Society of Chemistry, said: "Rather than only getting 20 to 30 billion barrels [from the North Sea] we are probably looking at more than twice that amount."
His analysis is supported by petroleum experts who believe there are some 300 fields off the coast of Britain still to be explored and tapped properly. If energy prices continue to soar, companies will become increasingly willing to tap previously uneconomic oil fields."
Dr Pike claims that the industry knows the true figures but refuses to release them because of commercial secrecy.

Oh look they’ve found more !

North Sea Oil Firms Shares Soar After North Sea Find in the Trillions
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/10233/north-sea-oil-firms-shares-soar-after-north-sea-find-in-the-trillions/

and -
Could Hurricane Energy’s Lancaster be one of ‘best’ oil fields on the planet?

http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/168278/could-hurricane-energys-lancaster-be-one-of-best-oil-fields-on-the-planet-168278.html

camf

Wasn't it that visionary politician so beloved by his nation, David Cameron, that begged Scotland to stay? He must be so popular.

ICBM

Fretwired said:

Why stop at pissing off the Spanish .. add the Falklands as well and piss off the Argies .. the new kingdom wouldn't be able to defend either as they won't have a navy .. :-)

Yes it will. It will have the Royal Navy, because England and Wales will have left the UK .

Perhaps you would like to buy four Trident submarines and a couple of white elephants half-finished aircraft carriers? We don't want them.


Nearly forgot - you can have the Trident subs in good working order, but since the UK is a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, you can only have the missiles in non-operable condition. Luckily there are still plenty of men in Scotland who know how to use cutting torches.

Fretwired

ICBM said:

Fretwired said:

Why stop at pissing off the Spanish .. add the Falklands as well and piss off the Argies .. the new kingdom wouldn't be able to defend either as they won't have a navy .. :-)

Yes it will. It will have the Royal Navy, because England and Wales will have left the UK .

Perhaps you would like to buy four Trident submarines and a couple of white elephants half-finished aircraft carriers? We don't want them.

Nice try ... the Royal Navy's home base is Portsmouth in England and the Royal Navy is English as it was setup by Henry VII and expanded under Henry VIII. Parliament is in England .. all the cash is in England, the pound is English, it's the Bank of England, the City is in London .... you can keep the half finished aircraft carriers and the nuclear subs .. enjoy spending the billions to decommission them .. ;-)

fretmeister

AliGorie said:

Aint gonna happen guy's, ’THEY’VE’ all got shares in it.
'THEY'D' SEND THE TROOPS IN
We hear how bad the ‘High Streets doing but not a word of this - not a word in the UK MSM, North Sea Find in the Trillions - and not a word.

"Dr Richard Pike, a former oil industry consultant and now the chief executive of the Royal Society of Chemistry, said: "Rather than only getting 20 to 30 billion barrels [from the North Sea] we are probably looking at more than twice that amount."
His analysis is supported by petroleum experts who believe there are some 300 fields off the coast of Britain still to be explored and tapped properly. If energy prices continue to soar, companies will become increasingly willing to tap previously uneconomic oil fields."
Dr Pike claims that the industry knows the true figures but refuses to release them because of commercial secrecy.

Oh look they’ve found more !

North Sea Oil Firms Shares Soar After North Sea Find in the Trillions
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/10233/north-sea-oil-firms-shares-soar-after-north-sea-find-in-the-trillions/

and -
Could Hurricane Energy’s Lancaster be one of ‘best’ oil fields on the planet?

http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/168278/could-hurricane-energys-lancaster-be-one-of-best-oil-fields-on-the-planet-168278.html

Scotland will claim ownership.

And enforce that with what? They Navy they won't have?

HAL9000

Sambostar said:

HAL9000 said:

Fretwired said:

speshul91 said:

Fretwired said:

There's a big problem with this .. can anybody see it?

We get stuck with Wales?

We could form a new country called Wagland .... 

Nah, how about...

Former Union of Celtic Kingdoms?

Does that mean we have to include Poland?

If you want any plumbing done then yes.

HAL9000

camf said:

Yes, we are all individuals.

I'm not.

camf

Happily, with Scotland having taken up the mantle of now being the UK, and assumed the position of being a major force in the EU and being bumped up to the top tier of world politics... it won't really have to give a *&%*!

COME ON GUYS!!! IT WASN'T A SERIOUS PROPOSAL!

(But seriously, most people in England knows they need to cling to their northern cousins for comfort and in the hope that some of our famous celtic charm rubs off on them.)

Fretwired

camf said:

Happily, with Scotland having taken up the mantle of now being the UK, and assumed the position of being a major force in the EU and being bumped up to the top tier of world politics... it won't really have to give a *&%*!

COME ON GUYS!!! IT WASN'T A SERIOUS PROPOSAL!

(But seriously, most people in England knows they need to cling to their northern cousins for comfort and in the hope that some of our famous celtic charm rubs off on them.)

I think we got that ... ;-)

camf

Just checking...

camf

Peoplke have got elected on stupider plans.

ewal

Myranda said:

Would we keep the pound? Would the other three members of the UK lose the NHS, the pound, centralised government the Bank of England, legal system, etc. and be fine with that? Seems to me that England leaving the UK overnight would create a legal challenge that would mean we would get super sued... like hundreds of billions in damages

Just for the record - Scotland already has it's own centralised government, legal system, NHS, and Education etc