I've got two guitars with strap buttons on the back by the heel (SG style). Both are old and thus have old style Gibson buttons that are small and well worn (relatively).
I really want to find a good secure strap solution that means they won't take a neck dive and meet the ground and are relatively comfortable. I've found that even some good old grolsch washers are too loose to keep a strap on securely.
As as they are oldies I don't really want to swap them out for strap locks, and I certainly don't want to relocate. I'd try one of those clever straps with built in locks if I could find one with a reversed end.. So far no luck.
what do you guys do for a good secure strap connection for a button in this position that holds to an older button and is relatively comfortable?
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The ones from Cliff jack sockets are ideal for old Rickenbacker buttons, although I haven't tried one on a Gibson - you can't easily replace Rick buttons with something larger because they're a bolt with a large thread.
I'll try it on a Gibson button and report back - if you don't have any suitable washers I'd be happy to send you some, I have literally hundreds of the Cliff ones.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Dirt cheap as well. Only about £3 a pair.
They can sometimes (rarely) be poorly made and have a tendency for the middle part to pop out though, so it's worth checking them carefully.
I'll have a look at the fibre washers in a bit though .
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Far more secure than the Grolsch washer alone, but you can still get it off if you want to. The order matters though!
On: strap, fibre, Grolsh. Off: Grolsch, strap, fibre. It's too difficult to get the strap on when the fibre washer is there or the fibre when the Grolsch is there - because the fibre needs to be at a steep angle to make it go over the rim of the button.
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"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
If you buy a brand new Heistercamp Strap, especially the 'Raw' type, it's so thick and well made that once you fit it to a strap button (Which takes around an hour and at least three tyre levers) it's a 6 man job to get the thing off the strap button again and it will NEVER come off on it's own.
I'm just about to get an SG and a HC srap and that's my plan. Put it on once and leave it on permanently.
'Hunters Tor' if you're interested.
http://www.heistercamp.co.uk/shop/leather-guitar-straps/leather-guitar-straps--super-soft/hunters-tor-super-soft
I have a breaker bar in the garage if you get stuck...
We *Might* just get thing on. Hahaha
I got my current 'Raw' HC Strap at the show and i didn't get a rubber grolsch thing but as has been mentioned, it's not hard to do. My SG is brand new so the new strap will just weld itself there and stay there forever i think. Because that strap has two actual buckles, it's probably easier to unbuckle each end if it has to come off and leave the two short pieces on a-la-Dimarzio Clip-lok. or just tell anyone who wants to take it off to piss off and leave it alone !
Bloody guitar techs !
Whatever, it's an SG. It was designed to be spanked hard and it's exactly what it's going to get. I'm not about to get precious about buckles, scratch or whatever. That will be nothing compared with the abuse it gets while being played anyway so as long as the head stock doesn't snap, i will be dead happy.
It's a nice guitar but it's a Gibson SG.
It was designed to remove underwear, not skin while it's getting polished FFS !
I may be a little impatient about all this by now.
It *Might* be *Starting* to show.
Apologies for the hi-jack (Again, i know,.................i know ).
"I'm getting impatient for the strap" sounds too public school Billy Bunter for my liking...