Small pets: legal questions

Handsome_Chris

Cirrus said:

My worry would be that I botched it and the pet knew about it - so their last thought is "Oh my god, my owner is killing me".

I did not know that animals believed in God or ownership. 

guitarfishbay

It's really very quick and peaceful at a vets, maybe call them first

marcus449

Handsome_Chris said:

Cirrus said:

My worry would be that I botched it and the pet knew about it - so their last thought is "Oh my god, my owner is killing me".

I did not know that animals believed in God or ownership. 

no but they understand the concept of being killed, regardless of who's doing it

Handsome_Chris

marcus449 said:

Handsome_Chris said:

Cirrus said:

My worry would be that I botched it and the pet knew about it - so their last thought is "Oh my god, my owner is killing me".

I did not know that animals believed in God or ownership. 

no but they understand the concept of being killed, regardless of who's doing it

@marcus449 , I appreciate your point that it doesn't matter if a vet or amateur does the killing, but i prefer to stay on the humane side of things.  I believe that @paganskins dispatching of the chicken was reasonable and humane.  I think that to call a vet out in that situation would have been unnecessary.

Cirrus

Handsome_Chris said:

Cirrus said:

My worry would be that I botched it and the pet knew about it - so their last thought is "Oh my god, my owner is killing me".

I did not know that animals believed in God or ownership. 

Oh.

EricTheWeary

We took one of our gerbils to the vets to be put to sleep when it developed growths, the other had died in it's habitat. Vet fees vary quite a bit, ours is about £30 for any consultation. I think it was an injection rather than a guillotine, although I didn't see it so I don't really know. The dog was an injection, I had to hold him. Dear God that was so sad. 
Going to the vets is about reassurance that you are doing the right thing and that your beloved pet isn't suffering any more than necessary, I'm not sure I'd trust myself to do it as painlessly as a vet could. I've had to finish off a couple of wild creatures but if it's bleeding all over the patio then calling up the vets for an appointment isn't really an option. 

jonnygreentrees

a friend of mine tried and failed to euthanize his pet rat about three times...not good.

Unless you have a foolproof and humane way to do it yourself (and the bottle to do it) take it to a vet

Handsome_Chris

jonnygreentrees said:

a friend of mine tried and failed to euthanize his pet rat about three times...not good.

Unless you have a foolproof and humane way to do it yourself (and the bottle to do it) take it to a vet

That is awful.  I feel bad for both the rat and him.  How did he attempt the easing of is furry friend's passage over The Rainbow Bridge?

Handsome_Chris

Now this is wrong.

https://stv.tv/news/stirling-central/1383023-guinea-pigs-dumped-in-box-outside-pets-at-home-store/

richardhomer

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

Handsome_Chris

richardhomer said:

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

OK @richardhomer , let me put this real case scenario to you.  You live in a rural area, so the nearest vet is about half an hour away (best case).  Your dog, a greyhound, gets hit by a tractor on the road and has crush injuries and a broken back. She can not be moved due to injuries and pain, and it may well not survive the day.  You have a 22 rifle in the house.   

Do you wait for a vet to attend to put it out of her misery?

richardhomer

Handsome_Chris said:

richardhomer said:

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

OK @richardhomer , let me put this real case scenario to you.  You live in a rural area, so the nearest vet is about half an hour away (best case).  Your dog, a greyhound, gets hit by a tractor on the road and has crush injuries and a broken back. She can not be moved due to injuries and pain, and it may well not survive the day.  You have a 22 rifle in the house.   

Do you wait for a vet to attend to put it out of her misery?

But that isn't the situation you're in, is it?

So an interesting dilemma to present to me - but not the question you originally posed....

Nunogilberto

Surely a vet is the only way? I'm not sure why you'd consider anything else...

menamestom

I think we can all agree, this is an area where FWD and RWD perform equally admirably.

 

Handsome_Chris

@richardhomer , I was actually just interested in knowing if it was legal to euthanise an animal yourself. 

I do not have a pet at this time.  My last dog passed just before New Years Eve, don't worry, there was a vet involved.

MattBanshee

Handsome_Chris said:

@richardhomer , I was actually just interested in knowing if it was legal to euthanise an animal yourself. 

Yes it is legal, provided you do not cause the animal to suffer. You basically need to have the means and skill to do so quickly and cleanly.

MattBanshee

Handsome_Chris said:

richardhomer said:

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

OK @richardhomer , let me put this real case scenario to you.  You live in a rural area, so the nearest vet is about half an hour away (best case).  Your dog, a greyhound, gets hit by a tractor on the road and has crush injuries and a broken back. She can not be moved due to injuries and pain, and it may well not survive the day.  You have a 22 rifle in the house.   

Do you wait for a vet to attend to put it out of her misery?

You'd lose your firearms licence and probably face prosecution for firearms offenses if you shot anything in a public place - any firearms owner would know that.

Handsome_Chris

MattBanshee said:

Handsome_Chris said:

richardhomer said:

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

OK @richardhomer , let me put this real case scenario to you.  You live in a rural area, so the nearest vet is about half an hour away (best case).  Your dog, a greyhound, gets hit by a tractor on the road and has crush injuries and a broken back. She can not be moved due to injuries and pain, and it may well not survive the day.  You have a 22 rifle in the house.   

Do you wait for a vet to attend to put it out of her misery?

You'd lose your firearms licence and probably face prosecution for firearms offenses if you shot anything in a public place - any firearms owner would know that.

So @MattBanshee I take it your answer would be to wait for the vet?

MattBanshee

Handsome_Chris said:

MattBanshee said:

Handsome_Chris said:

richardhomer said:

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

OK @richardhomer , let me put this real case scenario to you.  You live in a rural area, so the nearest vet is about half an hour away (best case).  Your dog, a greyhound, gets hit by a tractor on the road and has crush injuries and a broken back. She can not be moved due to injuries and pain, and it may well not survive the day.  You have a 22 rifle in the house.   

Do you wait for a vet to attend to put it out of her misery?

You'd lose your firearms licence and probably face prosecution for firearms offenses if you shot anything in a public place - any firearms owner would know that.

So @MattBanshee I take it your answer would be to wait for the vet?

I don't know what my answer would be; but one of my old bandmates was an apprentice gamekeeper, shotgun and firearms licencee and the rules are so strict with very heavy penalties for breaking the law (and rightfully so) that it's not just as simple as popping home and grabbing the gun. Most rural areas are actually well served by vets (travelling vets as well as those in practice) due to the amount of farming around, so it probably wouldn't be that difficult to have one head over there.

Dominic

MattBanshee said:

Handsome_Chris said:

richardhomer said:

To be honest, the idea you'd even contemplate doing it yourself makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. I actually feel sick, just thinking about it....

OK @richardhomer , let me put this real case scenario to you.  You live in a rural area, so the nearest vet is about half an hour away (best case).  Your dog, a greyhound, gets hit by a tractor on the road and has crush injuries and a broken back. She can not be moved due to injuries and pain, and it may well not survive the day.  You have a 22 rifle in the house.   

Do you wait for a vet to attend to put it out of her misery?

You'd lose your firearms licence and probably face prosecution for firearms offenses if you shot anything in a public place - any firearms owner would know that.

Don't think that is the case ...........large Roe Deer was hit by a car outside our farm and seriously injured
Police came and asked me to despatch it -I don't have a gun or shoot but they asked the farmer next door and he shot it with a rifle quickly and cleanly.