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I've never had this happen before in 20 odd years.
Here goes.
I replaced a thin "E" string (0.009") the other week, I had my brother get me one from town as a favour cos I had to work later than usual.
Anyhow the one he brought back was a Dean Markley "Electric or Acoustic" guitar string? Never heard of those but I stuck it on anyway as it was only gonna be for 3 weeks til next proper change.
On Friday I got the guitar out and it needed tuning slightly, so I unlocked the locking nuts and found the thin E to be waaaaay flat, it was as good as in tune with the locking nuts locked but saggy as fooook when I undid them.
It had been ok for a good 2 weeks. I rarely have to undo the lockng nuts as the guitar stays very well in tune but I thought I'd just give it a proper tune "nuts off" that time.
Anyway the damn string would not tune back upto pitch, kept getting higher and then would loosen again and again.
I doubt it's a quality issue as it's a 6 month old Ruokangas and has Gotoh SD91 tuners(see link) the string goes into a hole and then kink round the notch etc.
http://www.ruokangas.com/?p=6810
String was tight into the saddle too, I tried restringing it but the end of the string that was in the machine head was all bent and coiled as you would expect and I just chucked the string.
I'm wondering if it was a dodgy string or something.
Anyone had similar experience and have you ever heard of those Dean Markley "Electric or/and Acoustic Guitar strings"?
Cheers.
:-(
PS Edited: May now include "Nuts"
Not Tuna
:-D
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@BenSirAmos
The original set of strings were put on in June, I change them every 3 months, but the original E snapped a couple of weeks ago, so I just got a single replacement.
Funny thing is the original E snapped by me practicing 16th note triplets (funk etc) and that's a new one on me too, to have a string break when strumming a chord. I mighthave been going at it a bit heavy though.
When the original E broke it was near the saddle end, if that helps.
@maltingsaudio
That's the thing though, it wasn't "Broke" it was still firmly attached at either end and simply would not tune to pitch. I can't say I know much about whether it just kept "Slipping" so to speak.
Fingers crossed when I buy a new un.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
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@richardhomer
I've chucked the string anyway, Rich. The tuning mechanism is such that you cut off the Ball end. One plain end into the saddle blocks and then you insert the string into a hole in the machine head, kink it round a notch in the machine head and wind. It may be easier having a good pic of the tuners as my link only has the back of them shown.
I think you might see them on Show us Yours thread where my guitar is.
Cheers Rich
@ICBM
I can honestly say that I've been doing that for 20 odd years and no string as ever slipped, albiet with different tuning mechanisms. I decided to unlock the locking nut because I had tweeked the truss rod and just though I would give it a tune like that, maybe in my naivity I though I would be relieving any stresses caused by the tweek.
With the style of these tuners it probably is best to keep the lock nuts locked though, it's probably more prone to slippage than my wolfgang. On the Wolfgang you can leave the ball end on at the machine head, so no chance of anything going anywhere there.
The guitar plays fine anyway.
Cheers ICBM
@maltingsaudio
You could be right, I did tweek the truss rod only slightly and adjusted the bridge height a mere tad, so that could be the culprit and the thinnest string is more likely to suffer for it.
Thanks.
String faults are extremely rare incidentally....
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
@richardhomer
Could be then. I hope I didn't mess things up making my tweeks, I did everything by the manual and it was only slight anyway.
@ICBM
thanks for the tips but we might be getting mixed up here.
The tuners are not "Locking Tuners" it is a locking trem system. I meant the 3 nuts you open with a hex key at 0 fret.
The Gotoh sd91's are non locking tuners and the manual states you should cut about 2 inches of string past the tuner so you would have some wrap around.
The guitar in question is on Page 3 of show us your thread, it might show the tuners clearer.
Thanks.
I've used Dean Markley's for years without problems, even with trems.
I've had problems with snapping the high e when stretching them, but I suspect, that down to ham-fastenedness rather than bad strings.
Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21)
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
@ICBM
Ah, sorry I did write that, I'll edit it later so save confusion.
Just to clear up your advice on avoiding slipping
On a post with a slot and a hole down the middle, you mean you insert the string in the hole first and then take the string the wrong way round the post for half a turn then back across the slot, and then wind on normally.
Just wanted to make sure that's what you meant, you know what I'm like!
Thanks again