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"Hi - we're Boss, and we've made a unit that sounds like every guitar shop on a Saturday afternoon. Yay us!"
Also they still haven't got a comp that matches cp1-x which appears to be in this GT..
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if they've got those right on this new unit i'd rather go for the boss..
I do think the Helix is a hell of a lot easier to tweak though. The boss 500 series gives me a nose bleed just thinking about going into that menu.
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gt-1000/owners_manuals/
On G2, "Stombox mode" allows you to kick in individual effects in real time into preset patches (involving multiple individual pedals).
On this new Boss doodah their "innovative" stompbox mode allows you to kick in individual effects in real time into preset patches (involving onboard effects - I can't be arsed to look, but does the Boss have loops too... if so...).
So very similar in what it in effect does, no?
Boss don't need to pat themselves on the back around here... ;-)
Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
It's really up against it though with the Helix LT with it's new sub £700 price. For one thing Helix LT display is 800 x 480 pixel. Boss is 512 x 160.
I haven't jump onto the modelling bandwagon but I'm getting more and more confused with each product release LOL.
No, it's not the same thing - despite the similar names. Based on reading the manual, what Stomp Box for the GT-1000 seems to do is this...
On my GT-100 (and I'm not planning on upgrading...) you can have a specific effect with specific settings and store it as a favourite. For example, a modulated delay where the modulation value is 50/100 could be stored as a favourite and then when you're setting up a new patch for the solo in a song, you just go to your favourites and call it up. You might do that for a few patches. However, each patch has a discrete copy of the settings for that effect. If you soundcheck at a gig and then find your delay sounds better in that room with the modulation reduced to 30/100, you'll have to change every patch which uses that effect with those settings.
The Stomp Box feature in the GT-1000 seems to allow you to only change it in the one place and have every patch dynamically retrieve the new settings without you needing to edit them all individually. Which is not the same thing as kicking in a new effect to an existing patch in real time a la the G2 Stompbox mode.
Of course, just like physical effects pedals with cables, finding that a patch sounds better if you reduce the modulation to 30/100 doesn't mean that all the patches using that effect with those settings will still sound good.
I'm loving how comparisons are being made when one of the multis isn't even out on the market yet...
Merely pointing out (using humour missed on 99% of you, clearly) that the concept of using 'stompboxes' within patches is nothing new or "innovative". Whether or not anyone else is currently making a multi that does it is moot - and I'm fairly sure other firms have done similar before (didn't the Line6 HD500 do that..?)
Since I bought my first MFX (a GT5 in about 1997), I have always used external drive pedals alongside them for this very reason. Every time a new MFX comes out, I scour the manual to see if they've addressed this, and they never have until this latest Boss release.
In my day job I'm a UI designer (not MI industry), and I've often thought about trying to get in with the likes of Boss, L6, etc to make stuff like this happen.
I did attempt to start a discussion on this back in 2015, but nobody seemed to be interested
http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/55150/mfx-with-global-od-settings
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