Coronet/crestwood/Wiltshire type or single p90 guitar?

hessodreamy · September 2020

I saw Peter buck rocking a satellite coronet the other day. Buck fanboy that I am it reignited an unrequited longing for a single p90 solid body (ok Buck’s model is a double pickup, but anyway).

So I was wondering what my options in that area were, short of a vintage epiphone. Obviously there’s Gibson lpj (double cut) and sgj (I’m also a lemonheads fan). Maybe Gordon smith, maybe. These are all the same, aren’t they? A slap of mahogany with a p90 and wraparound bridge? Beat in mind that Fat necks are a turn off for me. Especially on guitars.

As I’m not yet sure if it’ll be a keeper or a flipper my budget’s around 500-600 and I’m
probably staying away from small builders’ wares (I know there’s a sexy-looking gsp lpj for sale on the forum).

earwighoney · September 2020

Epiphone will have a Coronet/Crestwood out at sometime, maybe hold on for one of them?

hessodreamy · September 2020

earwighoney said:

Epiphone will have a Coronet/Crestwood out at sometime, maybe hold on for one of them?

Oh yes, I forgot to say I was aware of that. Spec-wise they tick the boxes. Remains to be seen if they’re any good though, and it’ll be a while before they’re on the used market. But yeah, could be a winner.

Not sure why I’m more drawn to a coronet than a jpj dc though. If I could get over that I could pick up a gibbo pretty easily and flip it if it’s not for me.

horsehead · September 2020

Neil at @IvisonGuitars does something for you

Danielsguitars · September 2020

horsehead said:

Neil at @IvisonGuitars does something for you

Not for £500 or £600

MattNovak · September 2020

If you wanted to go the self-built route, there's an eBay vendor in Italy who makes Crestwood bodies for about £120 (necks also available). I'll see if I can find a link

MattNovak · September 2020

Here you go, I'm almost tempted myself!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Epiphone-Coronet-66-Body-mogano-vintage-su-ordine-spedizione-veloce/174135799207?hash=item288b4d6da7:g:7ZsAAOSwhY1eHcbi

Danielsguitars · September 2020

MattNovak said:

Here you go, I'm almost tempted myself!download

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Epiphone-Coronet-66-Body-mogano-vintage-su-ordine-spedizione-veloce/174135799207?hash=item288b4d6da7:g:7ZsAAOSwhY1eHcbi

Me too, it's not worth making one at that money

horsehead · September 2020

Danielsguitars said:

horsehead said:

Neil at @IvisonGuitars does something for you

Not for £500 or £600

My bad I missed that bit, but if quality counts and can be afforded somehow...then..
BOOM

Danielsguitars · September 2020

horsehead said:

Danielsguitars said:

horsehead said:

Neil at @IvisonGuitars does something for you

Not for £500 or £600

My bad I missed that bit, but if quality counts and can be afforded somehow...then..
BOOM

You're looking at £2k plus for a jnr type build, affordable is a whole different thing

horsehead · September 2020

Danielsguitars said:

horsehead said:

Danielsguitars said:

horsehead said:

Neil at @IvisonGuitars does something for you

Not for £500 or £600

My bad I missed that bit, but if quality counts and can be afforded somehow...then..
BOOM

You're looking at £2k plus for a jnr type build, affordable is a whole different thing

Affordability differs to different people man. I did indeed miss OPs original statement about the price range, so it's all good. Just sharing my opinion

hessodreamy · September 2020

MattNovak said:

Here you go, I'm almost tempted myself!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Epiphone-Coronet-66-Body-mogano-vintage-su-ordine-spedizione-veloce/174135799207?hash=item288b4d6da7:g:7ZsAAOSwhY1eHcbi

I must say I got a bit excited there. But then I figured it’s £100 for the body (alder, presumably mahogany costs more) and £200 for the neck (advertised neck is 3+3 but batwing would be cooler). Plus shipping from Italy, from a guy whose work I don't know the quality of. Then I've got to finish it, add all the parts (which is all fun, but tbh I haven't yet finished my last build/finish project). From the standpoint of cost, predictability of quality & resell value I might be better off with the upcoming Epiphone reissue, even if it makes for a less fun journey.

Maybe if I got a lpj to test the waters it might be less impulsive to invest such money & time into a build. But commissioning a coronet build from Italy just because Peter Buck played something similar is just just kind of impulsive bullshit I do sometimes!

SteveRobinson · September 2020

The neck isn't even compatible with the body as it doesn't have the required long tenon

MattNovak · September 2020

hessodreamy said:

MattNovak said:

Here you go, I'm almost tempted myself!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Epiphone-Coronet-66-Body-mogano-vintage-su-ordine-spedizione-veloce/174135799207?hash=item288b4d6da7:g:7ZsAAOSwhY1eHcbi

I must say I got a bit excited there. But then I figured it’s £100 for the body (alder, presumably mahogany costs more) and £200 for the neck (advertised neck is 3+3 but batwing would be cooler). Plus shipping from Italy, from a guy whose work I don't know the quality of. Then I've got to finish it, add all the parts (which is all fun, but tbh I haven't yet finished my last build/finish project). From the standpoint of cost, predictability of quality & resell value I might be better off with the upcoming Epiphone reissue, even if it makes for a less fun journey.

Maybe if I got a lpj to test the waters it might be less impulsive to invest such money & time into a build. But commissioning a coronet build from Italy just because Peter Buck played something similar is just just kind of impulsive bullshit I do sometimes!

It's your lucky day; I've just ordered one so you don't have to. I'll run some templates off it and then build it a neck. Will post pics etc when it arrives.

hessodreamy · September 2020

MattNovak said:

It's your lucky day; I've just ordered one so you don't have to. I'll run some templates off it and then build it a neck. Will post pics etc when it arrives.

Exciting stuff!

SteveRobinson · October 2020

Coronet templates you say?

Danielsguitars · October 2020

SteveRobinson said:

Coronet templates you say?

I just made mine up, guessed DC tele and went with a 59 style anyway, now I've built it I'll be changing it to my own personal taste, too many being made now

MattNovak · October 2020

SteveRobinson said:

Coronet templates you say?

D'oh! That'll teach me for having an itchy 'buy it now' trigger finger. Have you made any using these @SteveRobinson ;?

hessodreamy · October 2020

SteveRobinson said:

Coronet templates you say?

I'm guessing that's the template for the '64 shape? Personally I prefer the more symmetrical horns on the pre '64, but that's just me.

SteveRobinson · October 2020

MattNovak said:
D'oh! That'll teach me for having an itchy 'buy it now' trigger finger. Have you made any using these @SteveRobinson ;?

Not yet, the first blank is underneath, roughed out ready for routing to shape.

hessodreamy said:
I'm guessing that's the template for the '64 shape? Personally I prefer the more symmetrical horns on the pre '64, but that's just me.

Yes it is, I wanted to use the 6-aside "batwing" headstock so this body shape matches that.

hessodreamy · October 2020

SteveRobinson said:

hessodreamy said:
I'm guessing that's the template for the '64 shape? Personally I prefer the more symmetrical horns on the pre '64, but that's just me.

Yes it is, I wanted to use the 6-aside "batwing" headstock so this body shape matches that.

That's a point. I like the 64 headstock but the pre-64 horns. Still, when I comes to building is there any reason not to mix & match?

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