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I think people have bought enough Peavey SS amps and also the Roland JC120 has a huge fan base proves that it can be done. A good amp is a good amp. valves don't make an amp good, the design and execution of that design makes it good. For every great valve amp there is also some pretty dodgy poorly built valve amps as well. The Blackstar HT range sounds less valve like than a peavey Bandit to my ears.
I'm afraid I disagree.
Most people buy Peavey SS amps because they can't afford anything else, or because the man in the shop recommended it and they don't know any better. They don't buy them on purely tonal grounds.
I can't agree either that the JC120 has a 'huge fan base'.
Yes, there are some poorly built valve amps, but that doesn't make solid state amps sound any better.
The proof of this subjective pudding is in the eating....valve amps still sell in large numbers, despite all their disadvantages.
EDIT: Just to reiterate, I'm not anti-SS, blindly pro-valve, or anything else. I've even bought and used SS amps in the past, and recommended them to my friends for their specific application and budget. I just don't think SS amps sound as good as valve, and I think I understand the reasons for that.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Fair points.
I'd like to see those tests too, it'd be interesting. Hype's a terrible thing, be it valve, Axe FX, Transtube, or any other. My preference for valve amps isn't hype-induced though.
Anyway, enough...
Found this video on youtube! Bit long I'm afraid, and reminds me of my tine in British manufacturing in the early 80's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDvF89Bh27Y&list=PL9A166E3085CED13E
"The Blackburn Story" at it's peak in 1961, employing thousands of workers and capable of making 500,000 valves a day, at the time of making the film the announcer proudly declares that the people of Blackburn and the factory were ready to meet the demands of the day and prepared for the future. Well I guess they got some of that right!
I'm amazed that it was still running in 1984.
I wonder if valve manufacture will eventually become a boutique 'arts and crafts' industry?
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
If I had the room I'd like to have a fling with a JC-120, but that applies to quite a few valve amps too!
I think Lance has moved on - he's got his 2 channel power amp (with he claims the Retro Wreck built in). Not sure if this is snake oil or not tbh.
He's also now selling a "tube" preamp ....
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"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
There's a lot of internet speak about valves these days that mean people who've never actually played a valve amp at a volume where you can hear the difference are buying them in their thousands because "it has to be valve". I gigged with a Valvestate head and cab back in the early 90s and it sounded great...