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Yes, I’ve been there.
so the deal is this is our fee for an event. If they respect you they will pay, if they don’t then nothing lost. We generally give most or all of the fee back to the charity as a gesture once the night is concluded but some members of the band might be struggling and are under no obligation to take part in my opinion.
by charging you will treated with a whole lot more respect and often catering etc with a dressing room rather than sweet FA.
there have been a couple of local charities I personally support and I supply sound and generator to the local raft race who support air ambulance etc. and a bunch of us raise money at musicians jam days for the local cancer cause since we’ve lost friends that way but that’s voluntary by all.
Wetherspoons? Not a chance, you're just lining their pockets.
A gig for exposure can work if you're guaranteed some bookers/press/managers/whatever in the audience. Not so much if it's just the public, the odds are much smaller of it leading to anything.
That being said, if you're in need of some new promo material with videos and photos of you playing to a packed out crowd, it might be worth it. But it sounds like that's not the case here.
"I hadn't realised this is a Wetherspoons venue. It's a little disappointing that small, independent, and often struggling local pubs can create budget to pay bands yet large nationals can't seem to.
Can you give us a bit more of an idea about how the whole charity side of it works please?
On the night, who gets paid and who is working for nothing? Bar staff, security, the band promoter, sound guy etc.
How is the money for charity raised? Is it pass the bucket round, pay on the door, is the venue donating a portion of sales etc.
We have done quite a few gigs for charity. It's not actually play for free as we incur costs in doing it so it's actually pay to play. At the same time we'd be providing kit for others to use. It's not a no, but we would like to have transparency on how everything works."
See what response you get.
It's either full price or free. No discounts ever.
This is the starting point.
Then it comes down to the charity itself. Is it a charity I want to support personally - would I have donated something to them? If not - then it's full price. If it is something I actively want to support then I might do the gig.
The nature of the Venue doesn't really come into it for me - everything needs a venue and every venue needs staffing.
I had a similar thing when Tesco asked me if I would do Balloon model making for a charity event at one of their shops. Tesco's are obviously a multi-billion pound company, but the charity was once I would support - Cancer Research so I did it. TBF to Tesco I asked them for a contribution to the costs of the balloons (proper modelling ones aren't cheap) and they did give me IIRC £75 towards it.
As it happens they contacted me again to do the same sort of thing but for a new store opening. Stand outside make balloons for the kids on opening day. That one I refused because Tesco was the beneficiary and they should have paid everyone booked.
One important thing to note: Over the years I've got hundreds of enquiries from genuine potential clients when I performed at actual shows / parties etc - but ABSOLUTELY NONE from any "Exposure" type event. Zero, unless you count grifters wanting more for free.
I think the difference is the punters emotional involvement in the show. If I do a kids magic show and the kids are happy and controlled the parents want that for their own event. They don't give a crap if their kid gets a free whatever when just passing the entrance to a shop.
So - base your decision on the charity alone. If you want to support it - great. If you wouldn't have put 5 pence in a bucket, then don't. That is the only factor because you will NOT get any paid enquiries off the back of it.
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There's a difference between the average employees just working to pay their rent and the corporate body as a whole.
However - it would be reasonable to consider whether 'Spoons are say, giving the beer profits for the night to the charity.
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