More powerful 5E3?

Petepassion · November 2023

mo6020 said:

Why not a Bassman?

Maybe a 59 bassman, ideally want a combo, but if the right head comes along…

wrinkleygit said:

My Wienbrock Me3 is switchable to allow the use of either 6v6 or 6l6, however I’ve always had plenty of headroom with 6v6 even with a loud drummer, still has its original Tayden speaker.

Sounds like I might have to try one of them

mo6020 · November 2023

Petepassion said:

mo6020 said:

Why not a Bassman?

Maybe a 59 bassman, ideally want a combo, but if the right head comes along…

Yeh, a 59. It’s a big combo, they sound immense, tho.

ICBM · November 2023

Tweed limited edition Blues Deluxe or Hotrod Deluxe with a Jensen speaker.

Yes really... I know they're not boutique and all that, but they will nail the 5E3 sound at both louder *and* quieter volume if you should need to. The Blues is slightly sweeter sounding, but the one I actually A/B'd directly with a high-end 5E3 copy was a Hotrod, on the Drive (not More Drive) channel... got it dead on.

The Jensen speaker is important, but the tweed cabinet actually - really - does sound better too.

Petepassion · November 2023

ICBM said:

Tweed limited edition Blues Deluxe or Hotrod Deluxe with a Jensen speaker.

Yes really... I know they're not boutique and all that, but they will nail the 5E3 sound at both louder *and* quieter volume if you should need to. The Blues is slightly sweeter sounding, but the one I actually A/B'd directly with a high-end 5E3 copy was a Hotrod, on the Drive (not More Drive) channel... got it dead on.

The Jensen speaker is important, but the tweed cabinet actually - really - does sound better too.

Thanks, my mate has a HRD, so maybe I’ll give it a go.
I did watch Johan Segborn compare a blues deville and original 59 bassman, the deville sounded great

Neilybob · November 2023

Peavey Classic 50 4x10 combo?!

https://reverb.com/uk/p/peavey-classic-50-4x10-50-watt-guitar-combo?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=csp&utm_content=62170

Petepassion · November 2023

Neilybob said:

Peavey Classic 50 4x10 combo?!

https://reverb.com/uk/p/peavey-classic-50-4x10-50-watt-guitar-combo?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=csp&utm_content=62170

I had the 2x12 version a few years back, nice amp, then the Delta blues, also a nice amp.
Problem is, I was using different pedals then this can make quite a difference as to what amp works and what doesn’t…maybe I’ll have to try them all again

victorludorum · November 2023

A Tweed Twin, maybe.

DrCornelius · November 2023

Louis Electric Buster ? Played through one once at a jam and it was crazy loud but don’t half sound good

Petepassion · November 2023

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice folks. I decided to try out a 30w Wienbrock Gringo combo, I believe it's the later version of the ME3, bought on Ebay and collect tomorrow evening. It seems worth a punt and I've only heard good things about them, albeit there's not a lot of info out there.
It's the right size, hand wired, and should easily be powerful enough and all for £520, which I didn't think was too bad.

DrCornelius · November 2023

I’ve just sold an ME3 on because when I find something I like I always sell it to get something that turns out to be shite.

With that in mind I’m sure you’ll love it , they are really lively sounding amps

Neilybob · November 2023

Petepassion said:

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice folks. I decided to try out a 30w Wienbrock Gringo combo, I believe it's the later version of the ME3, bought on Ebay and collect tomorrow evening. It seems worth a punt and I've only heard good things about them, albeit there's not a lot of info out there.
It's the right size, hand wired, and should easily be powerful enough and all for £520, which I didn't think was too bad.

Congrats!

Looking forward to further updates once you've had a chance to gig it.

wrinkleygit · November 2023

Petepassion said:

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice folks. I decided to try out a 30w Wienbrock Gringo combo, I believe it's the later version of the ME3, bought on Ebay and collect tomorrow evening. It seems worth a punt and I've only heard good things about them, albeit there's not a lot of info out there.
It's the right size, hand wired, and should easily be powerful enough and all for £520, which I didn't think was too bad.

Get your hands on a Tc Sparkboost to pair with it, makes it a really versatile set up, enjoy.

Petepassion · November 2023

wrinkleygit said:

Petepassion said:

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice folks. I decided to try out a 30w Wienbrock Gringo combo, I believe it's the later version of the ME3, bought on Ebay and collect tomorrow evening. It seems worth a punt and I've only heard good things about them, albeit there's not a lot of info out there.
It's the right size, hand wired, and should easily be powerful enough and all for £520, which I didn't think was too bad.

Get your hands on a Tc Sparkboost to pair with it, makes it a really versatile set up, enjoy.

Thanks I'll check them out.

57Deluxe · November 2023

Petepassion said:

I've love the Tweedy-luxe 5E3 I bought recently, but it's not loud enough for rehearsals/gigs. What would you recommend at around 25w-30w? or maybe even 20w as I know some 20w amps can be loud.
It reminds me of a '59 Bassman LTD I had last year, are they close sound wise? Or is there something that would get me closer?

use two

ecc83 · November 2023

57Deluxe said:

Petepassion said:

I've love the Tweedy-luxe 5E3 I bought recently, but it's not loud enough for rehearsals/gigs. What would you recommend at around 25w-30w? or maybe even 20w as I know some 20w amps can be loud.
It reminds me of a '59 Bassman LTD I had last year, are they close sound wise? Or is there something that would get me closer?

use two

That is the second such suggestion. There is of course a duplication of effort in having two 'identical' (they won't be!) amplifiers but the main problem is that it is unlikely to work. Two 5E3s will give about 6dB more SPL whereas when folks want "louder" they really mean MUCH louder or about 10dB and that, ball park, means ten times the power.

I doubt 50 watts is needed but I would guess 30W at least to make a significant difference. 'History has shown us' that pub gigs with a 4 piece and a carnivorous drummer needs a 30W amp. You might get away with a 15 IF you don't want anything close to clean AND you have a sensitive speaker, 100dB/W 2 by or 4 by 12. Large halls need 50W+ and outdoors you just need 'king K watts!

Dave.

Petepassion · November 2023

Picking up the 30w combo tonight.

ecc83 · November 2023

Petepassion said:

Picking up the 30w combo tonight.

Ah! You'll be right.

Dave.

Petepassion · November 2023

Picked up the Wienbrock Gringo and had a quick plingkerty plonk on it tonight, and the Gringo is Bingo! For the money this is a beautiful amp and many tonal options considering the appearance of the top panel.
Not quite a 5e3, but gets close and in some ways better. But I won’t know for sure until it’s covered a couple of rehearsals.
Dilemma is I’ve just been offered a Dr Z Maz 18 Combo at a very good price. Nothing like a 5e3, but by all accounts a great amp.
Oh well, the Hook R20 should be ready for sale by the weekend…but that sounds awesome too…should have stuck to motorcycles

koss59 · November 2023

I have a Gartone 5E3 that I’ve just used on a Tour playing Theatres mainly 500-1000 capacity.
In my opinion it’s the perfect volume amp for these types of gigs now and I was running it clean volume around 2.5.

I can see why it’d struggle in a rock band though.

Petepassion · November 2023

koss59 said:

I have a Gartone 5E3 that I’ve just used on a Tour playing Theatres mainly 500-1000 capacity.
In my opinion it’s the perfect volume amp for these types of gigs now and I was running it clean volume around 2.5.

I can see why it’d struggle in a rock band though.

And from the sound clips I’ve heard on here they sound marvellous.

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